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Dr. White. Some of the maps have been put out in the Department 

 of Interior on very lar^e scales as I indicated before and were drawn 

 up on the basis of tlie data supplied from the Coast and Geodetic 

 Survey. In the conduct of new surveys in areas where we have not had 

 data we are working very closely as in Alaska with the Geological 

 Survey to provide maps where they are required for their programs. 



Mr. Lennon. In other words. Doctor, you are assuring this com- 

 mittee that there is such rapport and cooperaton between the other 

 agencies of the Federal Government, the Department of Interior, the 

 Coast Guard, and the others who are involved, HEW, the Corps of 

 Engineers, and that there is no overlapping, particularly in the field 

 of preparation of maps related to the same subject matter. 



Is that true ? 



Dr. White. That is true, Mr. Chairman. We are in contact with the 

 other agencies constantly. As a result of the establishment of this new 

 committee, which I chair, dealing with ocean exploration and environ- 

 mental services, it is our hope that we could place the total mapping 

 program for the oceans on a systematic basis with a long term plan. 

 That will be one of the tasks of this interagency committee, to keep 

 tabs on that problem and assure we have a good national program. 



Mr. Lennon. I note on page 7 in your last paragraph 



Mr. Pollock. If the distinguished gentleman from North Carolina 

 would yield for a moment, the Malta agreement, as I understand, or 

 proposal, concerned those areas of the ocean depths beyond the Con- 

 tinental Shelf rather than involving the Continental Shelf. Is that 

 correct ? 



Mr. Lennon. I am trying to find out. Do you want to comment on 

 that. Doctor ? 



Dr. White. I believe the Malta proposal does pertain particularly 

 to the deep oceans, sir. 



Mr. Lennon. On page 7 of your statement you concluded in the 

 last sentence of the last paragraph. Warning and Prediction, "Thus 

 ESSA's forecast warning services are central to the Nation's marine 

 existence." 



In a discussion this morning with a staff member, who worked 15 

 years in the Navy's oceanographic program, he raised the question 

 that to his knowledge the Navy was, to a reasonable degree, involved 

 in forecasting and warning, too. I am sure there must be a distinction. 

 How does ESSA's forecast and warning service differ so far as marine 

 transportation is concerned from that Avhich the Navy is engaged in 

 today? 



Dr. White. The Navy environmental prediction activities are di- 

 rected specifically at support of the fleet. 



Our marine environment prediction activities are directed at the 

 general public and all other civil activities. These are very closely 

 coordinated within the Office of the Federal Coordinator for Meteoro- 

 logical Services and Supporting Eesearch, in which plans are drawn 

 up, in which you have various agency's participation in the exchange 

 of data and the preparation of forecasts. There is under preparation 

 now a national marine weather plan within this office. 



In other areas of weather, we have the same kind of situation. For 

 example, the Air Force is very much concerned with the forecasting 



