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Mr. Pelly. I noticed in our sister State of Alaska that there are 

 seven. I did not know there were seven colleges in Alaska. 



Mr. Pollock. I wanted to ask about that. 



Mr. Pelly. I yield the floor. 



Mr. Pollock. Maybe you can respond. 



Mr. Abel. Mr. Pollock, they are all branches of the same school — the 

 University of Alaska in Juneau, Sitka, et cetera. The whole State of 

 Alaska has always been — naturally enough — ocean conscious. This 

 consciousness was, to say the least, catalyzed and encouraged by the 

 Vice President's recent visit of 2 months ago. He took rather consider- 

 able pride in explaining to a group about 2 weeks afterward that he 

 had managed to render the whole State atingle ; we are quite conscious 

 of this from correspondence. 



Mr. Pelly. I have one further question. Are any land-grant col- 

 leges, for example, in Iowa prospective recipients of assistance? I 

 remember one of our colleagues from Iowa expressed concern when 

 this legislation was considered that assistance would only go to coastal 

 States and none to such areas as Iowa. I think he was told that land- 

 grant colleges could apply and qualify. 



Mr. Abel. Mr. Pelly, any college may apply. Mr. Lennon has really 

 explained the situation far better than I could. While I would not want 

 to prejudge any college without having received their proposal and 

 understood their existing facilities, it must be obvious that there are 

 some States who have traditionally not been concerned at all with the 

 oceans. An attempted invasion of our $5 million by them at this time 

 would be perhaps a little premature. 



Mr. Pelly. I agree with Mr. Lennon. We have a need for 3,000 per- 

 sonnel in this field — is that right ? 



Mr. Lennon. That is right. 



Mr. Abel. Technicians. 



Mr. Pelly. It is not going to take too many institutions to fill that 

 need. 



Mr. Abel. That is right. We have been approached already by be- 

 tween three and four dozen such institutions who have been offering 

 technician training courses. Here you see a curious situation because 

 very few, as Mr. Lennon knows, with the exception of those in perhaps 

 Maine, North Carolina and three or four other States, have specifically 

 oriented their technician training to the ocean. At the same time,, 

 several really outstanding schools who have trained technicians not 

 necessarily directed toward ocean exploration would like to pai-ticipate. 



In some cases they would like to participate as satellites of a major 

 university which has a strong interest in the ocean. 



Mr. Pelly. I feel very encouraged by your report toda5^ I think you 

 are proceeding in a way that leads me to believe that those of us who 

 were enthusiastic about this legislation are going to be very gratified. 



Mr. Abel. Thank you very much. 



Mr. Pelly. That is all. 



Mr. Downing. Mr. Reinecke. 



Mr. Reinecke. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



I would like to apologize for being tardy. I was testifying before the 

 Foreign Affairs Committee on the Maltese resolution. I am happy to 

 say to other members of the committee and the witness there is a great 



