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people in the institutions, and with our own staff, and people from 

 other agencies. 



Mr. Drewry. That is all I have, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Lennon. Doctor, you called attention to something that I re- 

 called when the National Science Foundation sent in its budget request 

 to Congress back in January 1959. 



You make it crystal clear that it is the judgment of you and your 

 associates that the NSF has moved steadily ahead, and in its budget 

 request for funding in fiscal 1960 you had virtually $8 million in 

 support of ocean sciences, and now in fiscal 1968, you anticipate some- 

 where in excess of $37 million. 



You say that is progress, at least to accelerate to that extent. I sup- 

 pose that is about the average. 



My recollection is that it is considerably better than the average, 

 because I think nondefense spending is up 61 percent for fiscal 1968 

 over what it was in either the 1960 or 1961 budget. You have more 

 than quadrupled, a little better than the average nondefense spend- 

 ing. 



Now, on page 12, Doctor, you mention the research vessel — and how 

 do you pronounce that name ? 



Dr. Robertson. Eltanin. 



Mr. Lennon. Are the scientists from other nations participating in 

 this? 



Dr. Robertson. I believe so. 



I would like to ask Dr. Jones, who is directly responsible for this 

 program, to comment. 



Mr. Lennon. Thank you. Doctor. 



Just for the record, we would like to know if this program for this 

 particular vessel, and the surveys in this particular area, envision that 

 scientists from other friendly nations will be aboard to conduct 

 studies. 



Dr. Jones. Yes. 



This is probably the only major ship working in what is prob- 

 ably the largest "ocean" of the earth. The entire Antarctic Ocean 

 area is as big as the central Pacific, you know. 



We have had aboard this ship, and will continue to have aboard, 

 exchange scientists from many nation. I think now the total is some- 

 thing like 15 different nations that have had their scientists aboard 

 this ship, working with our scientific groups. 



Mr. Lennon. I wonder if you would be kind enough to insert in 

 the record following your comments, Doctor, a little more definitive 

 explanation of the nations that are involved. 



Dr. Jones. Yes. 



These nations are the Antarctic Treaty countries. Most of the sci- 

 entists aboard are arranged by exchanges, not necessarily with other 

 oceanographic ships, because many of the other countries do not have 

 oceanographic ships. 



I think one of the unique features is that on this ship we have had 

 the first real exchange with the Russians by which we have had a 

 Russian scientist on our ship, and we have one of our men on one of 

 their oceanographic ships in the same area, all of these men had 

 worked together. 



