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part of the studies that have to go on to design a product that fits the 

 particular country concerned. 



Mr. Pelly. Would the gentleman yield ? 



Mr. Pollock. Yes. 



Mr. Pelly. It seems to me we have had situations such as you men- 

 tioned. South Korea expressed a desire to fish the Bering Sea. Our 

 country, through a Halibut Commission, has protected and has de- 

 veloped halibut banks there for 40 years. There is not room for an- 

 other nation. In the biggest area we let the Japanese come in and 

 share it with the Canadians and ourselves. 



If we are going to help Korea — and I hope we will — then we cer- 

 tainly should consider reaching some understanding that its fishing 

 industry will stay out of certain areas where owing to depleted re- 

 sources we have an interest in fostering conservation. It seems to me 

 we would say, "We will give you this aid, and help you to develop 

 processing plants for your own consumption, but in return we insist 

 that you stay away from our historic fishing resources where we have 

 practiced conservation throughout the years." 



Mr. Watees. Congressman, I think the guidance of this committee 

 in its expressions are helpful to us in guiding our planning. I would 

 have to add, however, that I am not sure that the AID agency alone 

 can do this. Some of these questions would probably be better put to 

 Mr. Pollack and others from the State Department on general policy. 

 There are areas of international relationships. 



Mr. Pelly. In any program there is a giveaway of some kind. I 

 never saw thean yet where they weren't thinking of the other fellow. 

 They are great humanitarians. 



Mr. Waters. We are having to balance between the forei^ policy 

 objectives but our main objectives are developmental objectives. We 

 are very conscious of American trade in our activities. We feel we 

 should contribute to that in any way we can and not discourage our 

 own trade. We have a very active balance-of -payments committee and 

 we have tried to weigh our aid activities in the light they will not hurt 

 the American balance of payments but will help them. 



Mr. Pelly. If the gentleman will continue to yield to me, I would 

 like to mention the seizure of American fishing vessels by certain Latin 

 American countries. The State Department reimburses our fishermen 

 for fines rather than take appropriate action to prevent harassment 

 of our fishermen, including seizure upon the high seas, and the levy 

 of very heavy confiscatory fines. Still we continue to give foreign aid 

 to these offending nations. 



Mr. Waters. We have had very drastic curtailment and practically 

 suspended our programs as a result of some fishing disputes in some 

 of those areas. I think there is a policy question and it might be more 

 properly directed to the 



Mr. Pelly. We have not been very successful in negotiating with 

 such countries. 



Mr. Pollock. I gather from what you were saying before, that 

 your program would envision establishing these fish protein concen- 

 trate plants in these various countries as distinct from developing 

 American industries to sell the fish protein concentrate flour in these 

 countries as a product there which would help our balance of payments. 



