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Dr. LiNDQUiST. That is right. They must have evidence that they 

 have sufficient staff and facilities to give a doctoral degree at that 

 institution in that field. Many institutions have doctoral programs 

 that have not been approved by us because, in the judgment of the 

 reviewing committees, they do not have the capability of really offer- 

 ing a substantial program, and hence they have not been approved. 



Mr. Rogers. The point I am aiming at is, do you have any way that 

 you can help direct interest in a certain scientific field through your 

 grants and fellowships ? 



Dr. LiNDQUiST. We might encourage, but there is no direction or 

 Federal control exercised. It is strictly the institutions proposing to 

 us the fields they would like supported and, within their allocation of 

 fellowships, they have freedom to allocate among the departments. It 

 may be 1 year one department receives no fellowships. It is the way 

 the institution sees fit to allocate their allotted number. 



Mr. Rogers. Actually they may come up with proposals that you 

 approve but they never do it. 



Dr. LiNDQUiST. If there is evidence the field of oceanography was 

 approved but never supported in 3 or 4 years, there would be some 

 question about continuing the approval of that field. 



Mr. Rogers. I think this is a fairly strange way to operate. 



Dr. Jacobs. Mr. Chairman, I would like to add a few things to Dr. 

 Linquist's response to Mr. Rogers. 



For one thing, if you counted the qualified scientists in all aspects 

 of oceanography in the entire country just a few years ago, there were 

 not enougli to satisfy the Nation's needs. This was one basis for the sea 

 grant college legislation. 



I think we are doing another very important thing in the Office of 

 Education. We are putting the seed down for the production of stu- 

 dents who are going to be interested in becoming marine scientists. The 

 Bureau of Elementary and Secondary Education has supported the 

 establishment of a number of marine programs to interest elementary 

 and secondary school youngsters in their developmental stages in 

 marine sciences. 



Mr. Rogers. It appears to me you have only eight of those, accord- 

 ing to your testimony ; page 10. 



Dr. Jacobs. Let me read these projects to you. Let me name the ones 

 which are in existence now. 



We have one in Beaufort, N.C., which provides for the development 

 of a unique educational and cultural marine science center. 



There is one in Poulsbo in the Kitsap School District of Washington, 

 for a model marine science laboratory. 



Mr. Rogers. May I interrupt. If you would put those in the record 

 for us, that would be fine. 



(The requested information follows :) 



Marine Science Education Projects Supported Under Title III of the 

 Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (Public Law 89-10) 



Title III provides grants for supplementary educational centers and services 

 to assist in the development of elementary and secondary school programs to 

 serve as models for regular school programs. Following is a list of the projects 

 supported in marine science education : 



