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were obtaining, and. consequently we did somewhat more. We took 

 some special photographs from Gemini, for example, upon recommen- 

 dation of people concerned with oceanography, and over a period 

 of time we developed studies that NASA actually funded. 



We have funded, working through the Navy primarily, and they 

 in turn working as a coordinator for oceanography, about $1 million 

 worth of effort. 



We have in our budget in fiscal year 1968 plans for transferring^ 

 about $1.6 million for oceanographic purposes. This is broken down 

 into specific studies and these studies will be managed by agencies 

 other than NASA. The results of the studies tie back to those things 

 which we in NASA might do either with data links or imaging devices 

 or radiometers that will be applicable to oceanography. 



All this was in being at the time but still quite embryonic at the 

 time that the Marine Council was put into the law. 



Since then at the meetings of the Marine Council we have reported 

 to the total Council on what we are doing to see whether there are 

 suggestions for augmenting it or improving it. I think at the next 

 to the last meeting Mr. Jaffe gave a 20 to 25 minute presentation to 

 all members of the Council, including the Chairman, as to what was 

 going on. 



Mr. Edwards. On page 2 you refer to the ad hoc spacecraft oceanog- 

 raphy advisory group, consisting of certain members. 



What is the relationship of that group to the Marine Council ? 



Dr. Seamans. This is the group which was chaired by a member 

 of the Navy. It is to advise us on our program. We have a breakout 

 of our plans for 1968 and some individual studies. I can submit this 

 to the committee if it is the pleasure of the chairman. 



It is to go over these kinds of things in detail that we have this 

 group. There is not time for the Marine Council to go into great detail 

 on each individual study that may amount to $40,000 to $50,000. 



Mr. Edwards. There is no duplication between the ad hoc group and 

 the Marine Council? 



Dr. Seamans. No. What we do with the ad hoc group is known to 

 the staff of the Marine Council. 



Mr. Edwards. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. KoGERs. I think every one is familiar with your contribution 

 and regrets your decision to leave NASA. I share this feeling. 



What is the total budget figure that NASA devotes to oceanographic 

 work? I realize there is an interconnection with many things you 

 do, but what would you say an overall figure is? 



Dr. Seamans. The figure I just mentioned is the total figure directly 

 related to oceanography and to no other discipline. It is planned in 

 1968 that that will be $1.61 million. 



Mr. Rogers. Out of a total budget of what? 



Dr. Seamans. This comes out of a total NASA budget of $4.58 

 billion. 



Mr. Rogers. Do you think this is a proper ratio ? In other words, 

 even in NASA are we giving proper emphasis to oceanography ? 



Before you answer that, one of the concerns of the committee has 

 been that many of our agencies have not yet realized the significance 



