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form a very valuable service and indeed, I think, answer the ques- 

 tions in a very hasty and thorough manner. 



So, Mr. Chairman, all I want to say is that I think what this 

 booklet implies or says is that even though NASA has not been in- 

 volved by invitation or otherwise to directly participate in ocean- 

 ography or oceanology and marine sciences, that spinoff benefits 

 from other programs have been so applicable that they tell a very 

 meaningful story. I am only hopeful that some place along the line, 

 Dr. Seamans, this capability that we have in NASA can be more 

 directly put to the test of answering the questions and solving the 

 problems that we have in the marine sciences and oceanography. 



Would you say that I have fairly stated the case as it applies to 

 the information that you have given to us today ? 



Dr. Seamans. Yes. I think that is an excellent summary. I might 

 say, Mr. Chairman, that Mr. Karth is chairman of the subcommittee 

 on the House Committee on Science and Astronautics that relates 

 to space science and applications. 



We have, as you well know, a very detailed budget and budget 

 review with the Congress and we have one line item in our research 

 and development program that relates to applications. The work that 

 we have done in oceanography comes under this line item and it is the 

 responsibility of Mr. Karth to review that program. 



The preponderance of the work has been related to meteorology and 

 communications. But we do have some small amount of supporting 

 research funds in that line item to see how this technology can be 

 ^applied to other areas, as a spinoff. That we have attempted to do. 



Mr. Lennon. We will make him our expert witness from now on. 



Thank you very much. 



Counsel, do you have questions? 



Mr. Drewry. Along that line, what is the total of that line item 

 ior 1968? 



Dr. Seamans. $104 million was the request, and I think we are 

 budgeting in the order of $99 million. 



Mr. Drewry. $1,600,000 of that is for oceanography ? 



Dr. Seamans. Yes. We also have funds that we are transferring 

 to Agriculture to see how it could benefit agriculture. It gets into 

 hydrology and weather forecasting and other areas. 



Approximately $6 million is transferred to other agencies to look 

 into these possible applications. In addition, we are funding this air- 

 craft program that I have described. We have to finance the flying 

 of the airplanes, the procurement of the sensors. 



The other agencies, including those involved in oceanography, are 

 responsible for the in situ measurement on the particular sites that 

 we fly over. Then we provide them the data for purposes of correlation. 



Mr. Drewry. You mentioned meteorology and communications shar- 

 ing in this same line item. How much is allocated to meteorology and 

 how much to comunication ? 



Dr. Seamans. I would have to give you a breakout of that, but a 

 large percentage of the efforts is in those areas. 



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