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like to, from a parocliial standpoint, agree with the gentleman from 

 Washington, I do not see how it is possible or reasonable for us to 

 take any other position. 



Mr. Pelly. 1 think we are in agreement. 



Mr. Lennon. The gentleman from Alabama, Mr. Edwards. 



Mr. Edwards. Do we not have a space treaty now ^ 



Mr. Pollack. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Edwards. Is there any parallel or similarity between the terms 

 of the space treaty and Mr. Goldberg's statement concerning the ocean 

 floor insofar as competing national sovereignties are concerned on ex- 

 ploration and this sort of thing ? 



Mr. Pollack. Yes; there are parallels. 



Mr. Edwards. Is it fair to suggest that perhaps the Goldberg state- 

 ment on the deep ocean was patterned after the space provision ? 



Mr. Pollack. No ; I do not think I would respond in the affirmative 

 to that. The two situations are different and the problems that we are 

 going to face in coming to an appropriate regime are quite different. 



Mr. Edwards. You gentlemen were here some time ago and dis- 

 cussed the Pardo resolution with this subcommittee. 



Mr. Pollack. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Edwards As I recall, I asked then if you had any knowledge of 

 who was behind the Pardo resolution. At that time, one of you gentle- 

 men stated that you did not. In effect, you suggested that Ambassador 

 Pardo was a person who sort of liked to go around introducing new 

 thoughts and new resolutions. Am I substantially stating what you 

 said? 



Mr. Pollack. That is right. 



Mr. Edwards. Now, as Ambassador Goldberg's position develops, we 

 appear to be heading toward some type of international organization, 

 the question again comes to my mind about who is behind the Pardo 

 resolution. Did the United States have anything to do with the Pardo 

 resolution? 



Mr. Pollack. Let me ask Mr. Popper to answer. 



Mr. Popper. No, sir ; the U.S. Government had no part in stimulating 

 or supporting or preparing the Pardo proposals. 



Mr. Edward. When was the first time you had any knowledge of it ? 



Mr. Popper. It was formally introduced in August and my off-the- 

 cuff recollection is that he mentioned it to us shortly before he in- 

 tended to introduce it. That was the first time, certainly, that I per- 

 sonally had any knowledge of it, and so far as I know the first time 

 anybody in the U.S. Government had any knowledge of it. 



Mr. Edwards. So it is your statement that the United States had 

 nothing to do with the drafting or the foi'mulation or any aspect of 

 the resolution ? 



Mr. Popper. So far as the U.S. Government is concerned, I am quite 

 convinced that is the case. Congressman. I cannot speak for individual 

 Americans, I have no knowledge. 



Mr. Ed-svards. What you are saying is that the U.S. Government of- 

 ficially had nothing to do with it ? 



Mr. Pollack. Or unofficially. 



Mr. Popper. Either way. 1 am speaking for officials of the U.S. 

 Government. 



