10 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM—1965 
Mr. Prtiy. Well, Mr. Chairman, I do not want to delay hearing the 
panel members that are going to follow but I would certainly feel re- 
miss 1f I did not compliment the doctor on his informative report. It 
is one of the finest bits of testimony that I think I have heard as a 
member of this committee. 
Dr. Hornig. Thank you. 
Mr. Lennon. Mr. Casey? 
Mr. Cassy. Doctor, does the Interagency Committee on Oceanog- 
raphy now report to the Federal Council? In other words, is it kind 
of an advisory committee in the Federal Council ? 
Dr. Hornic. Yes; the ICO is set up as one committee of the Federal 
Council; so its reports and recommendations are evaluated by the 
Federal Council. 
Mr. Casey. I do not want to take too much time but I wonder if you 
could maybe clear up the difference between the Federal Council and 
the Office of Science Technology and the Science Advisory Committee. 
Are they more or less related? Do you have some of the same mem- 
bers serving on all three of these committees ? 
Dr. Horne. I think this may be the best way to put it: All of 
these functions serve in an advisory capacity to the President. The 
Office of Science and Technology is the staff office within the Executive 
Office of the President; the Federal Council is a representative body 
of the Federal agencies which works with the Office of Science and 
Technology and provides advice from within Government; the Presi- 
dent’s Advisory Gonsniitine provides advice from outside of the Gov- 
ernment. It also works with the Office of Science and Technology, but 
it produces the outside input. 
Mr. Casry. That clears it up sufficiently for me. I will not spend 
any more time on that. 
I do want to compliment you on your statement and even, though 
this committee’s bill which the chairman and others of us introduced 
to show our support has passed the House and as the chairman stated, 
it reposes in the Senate. I believe that the interest that developed in 
this bill—we had another bill before as you recall, and had the same 
luck—in fact, I think the other one was passed and was vetoed. 
Dr. Horne. Yes. 
Mr. Casry. That it has stimulated interest in oceanography and I 
think not only outside of the Government but in the executive branch 
and I believe we are getting some of the fruits today of the purpose 
of the bill even though it has never really seen the final signature of 
the President and actually become part of the law. 
I want to compliment you and the members of the subcommittee 
and the others that have worked with this committee on developing 
a bill that would be compatible to the executive department in setting 
forth the guidelines and following some of the ideas that have been 
worked out jointly by some of the committee and the executive de- 
partment and going ahead with it even though it is not part of the 
law. I think we are accomplishing something, we really do not need 
the law if we continue to maintain this type of cooperation. I do 
believe we need the law for the purpose of informing our colleagues 
in the Congress of the need for this support and the support of these 
programs that you people are undertaking. 
