44 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM—1965 
Dr. Waxetin. No, we do not. In the last 2 years, at least, we have 
made drastic reductions as a committee to the whole pregram, affect- 
ing all of us. 
Mr. Rogers. Let me ask you this: How do you decide the percentage 
that should be allotted of the funds to each department involved ? 
Dr. Waxetin. This is based largely, not on the prorated division of 
funds as funds, but on the substance and importance of the projects 
submitted by the agency. In several cases, we have exceeded those 
requests given to us by an agency by ICO action. 
For example, we have added substantially in the last several years 
to the Department of the Interior’s budget request to the Federal 
Council by Committee action and cutting out various other parts of the 
program, feeling their project was more important to the whole plan 
in this time period than were others that were in competition with it. 
Mr. Rogsrs. So there is no specific breakdown ? 
Dr. Waxetin. There is no relationship, I am happy to say, between 
what an agency had last year and what they can submit for approval 
next year. I think this should be done on the substance of the pro- 
gram, and not on a fund basis. 
Mr. Rogers. Has the pattern been that the funds pretty much follow 
the pattern of what the Department had the year before ? 
Dr. Waxkerin. They have. 
Mr. Rogers. That has pretty much matched? 
Dr. Waxetin. It has. 
Mr. Rocrrs. What three departments would you say have the major 
funding ? 
Dr. Waxkettn. I would say the Department of Defense, the Depart- 
ment of Commerce, and the National Science Foundation, I think in 
about that order. 
Mr. Rogers. You have an advisory group, an ad hoc group? 
Dr. Waxetin. Yes. 
Mr. Rogers. Of nongovernmental people ? 
Dr. Waxettn. They are selected by the President’s science adviser, 
acting as Director of the Office of Science and Technology. 
Mr. Rogers. Does the Interagency Committee make recommenda- 
tions to him for his consideration in the selection of those ad hoe 
committees ¢ 
Dr. Waxeuin. I think in several cases we have suggested individual 
members as knowledgable in particular areas, but in general the 
framework of the whole Committee choice has been up to Dr. Wiesner 
and now up to Dr. Hornig without much direct coupling from us. 
Mr. Rogers. What use does your Committee make, or have you 
made, of the advisory ad hoc committees ? 
Dr. Waxeuin. We have made a great deal of use of their recom- 
mendations. They have pointed out in several cases what we con- 
sider to have been weaknesses in our program. ‘They have been most 
helpful to us. There are two areas in which they stress the real need 
for an alteration of emphasis. 
One was in the shore facilities. As you recall, it takes about four 
men to support one afloat. While we are building a substantial num- 
ber of ships, we in general have not kept up with the shore facilities 
that are going to be adequate for the program in the far future. We 
have to do more in this area. Since we did not, at the time they 
