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Mr. Exxswortu. Do I understand that this cut took place here in 
the House Appropriations Committee, or where ? 
Dr. WakELIN. The cut we are talking about ? 
Mr. ExuswortuH. The 5-percent cut. 
Dr. Waxkein. The cut took place in the House Armed Services 
Committee (a) authorization and (6) appropriations. 
Mr. Lennon. Did it take place in the House Armed Services Com- 
mittee or Subcommittee on Appropriations ? 
Dr. Waxkettn. The $73 million was removed by authorizaiton and 
another $8.5 million by the Appropriations Committee. 
Mr. Lennon. Dr. Wakelin, who appears before the respective au- 
thorization and then subsequently Subcommittee on Appropriations 
to defend the budget for oceanography ? 
Dr. Waxein. I do, for the Navy. 
Mr. Lennon. For the Navy ? 
Dr. WAKELIN. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Lennon. The members of the ICO who appear before the re- 
spective Subcommittees on Appropriations representing the several 
departments and agencies and bureaus? 
Dr. WAKELIN. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Lennon. You are in a position to present the authorization to 
the appropriate committee on the total oceanographic effort? 
Dr. Waxkettn. Which I have done. 
Mr. Lennon. In spite of that, you say that the $78 million cut in 
the authorization and subsequently $8.5 million in the appro- 
priations 
eee ae Waxetrn. $73 million and $8.5 million; yes, in R.D.T. & E., 
avy. 
Mr. Lennon. As Chairman of the ICO, do you know what the 
experience of the other interested members appearing before the 
Saag subcommittees on Appropriations and authorizations has 
een 
_ Dr. Waxketin. Our estimate now, across the board, as of this morn- 
ing, is of the order of $7 million cut out of $138 million. 
The Bureau of Commercial Fisheries sustained, I think, a 10 per- 
cent cut. There were smaller cuts in Geological Survey and Sport 
Fisheries. The Science Foundation is undetermined. We do not 
know the final apportionment within the Science Foundation, how 
their budget will be figured and their cut. 
I would estimate that of the Navy program, which we have before 
you now for discussion, $65.5 million, something of the order of $3 
million to $5 million would be cut out of that as a result of the across- 
pe ord cut that we sustained in the authorization and appropri- 
ations. 
Mr. Lennon. Of the House figure, what percentage of the cut of the 
$138 million is now reflected in the House appropriation bill up to this 
point? You have almost all of the House appropriation bills passed 
in the House and, in other words, what of the $138 million that was 
in the budget is left now as a result of House action ? 
Dr. WakKELIN. How much is left? About $131 million. 
Mr. Lennon. That isa $7 million cut ? 
Dr. WaAKELIN. Yes, sir. 
