100 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM—1965 
Commander Nyeren. The ad hoc committee examines the total 
program for the coming year for all panels. This is presented by the 
Panel Chairman at the time this ad hoc committee is convened. This 
is then discussed in that context. 
Mr. Rocrrs. How often does your Panel meet ? 
Commander Nyeren. It has not met as often recently as it did pre- 
vioulsy. I would estimate it has met approximately once a month 
for many, many months. Recently we have, in the last 8 months, had 
one meeting. We have had numerous interchanges by telephone. It 
has not been possible in the last few months to get Panel members 
together as a group. 
Mr. Rocrrs. Has your program been acted on? Is there any need to 
get them together ? 
Commander Nyeren. Not really; no, sir. 
One reason we had to get together was to discuss the ocean surveys 
problem in general with the National Academy of Sciences Committee, 
and at that time we did have a joint meeting with them. We presented 
to them some of the problems we had, and what we propose to do as a 
group. 
Mr. Rocrrs. Who is the Chairman of your Panel? 
Commander Nyeren. Dr. Harris Stewart, and has been for some 
time. 
Mr. Rocers. Is it on his initiative that the Panel is called together ? 
Commander Nyeren. Yes.- Sometimes this is suggested by other 
Panel members, of course, if there is something urgent. 
Mr. Rocrrs. Who is the staff member for the Panel? 
Commander Nyeren. Dr. Shykind assists the Surveys Panel. 
Mr. Rocrers. When is the next meeting scheduled ? 
Commander Nycren. The Acting Chairman is about to step down 
from the chair, and he will call a meeting very shortly. We have to 
have a meeting in order to prepare this presentation for the 1966 pro- 
gram. We should have this meeting very shortly. The Chairman will 
callit. Ihave not done so as yet. 
Mr. Roczrs. When you set up a program of things that need to be 
done, how do you supervise this ? 
Commandker Nycren. The problem that faces the Ocean Surveys 
Panel is a little peculiar in that the ocean surveys recommendations 
of NASCO have not really been carried out as yet. They recom- 
mended that 20-some ships be built for ocean surveys work. We 
have yet to take delivery of the first ship under these recommenda- 
tions. 
Mr. Rogers. When were the first recommendations made? 
Commander Nyeren. 1959. No ship has been delivered as yet. 
Mr. Rocers. Are there any to be delivered in the near future? 
Commander Nycrren. Yes. We will take delivery of two next year 
for the Coast and Geodetic Survey. We have had two Coast Guard 
ships diverted to this work. The ocean survey work as envisioned by 
UNASCO has not reached full fruition, so we have a situation where 
the great bulk of the money listed as surveys in this program 1s mis- 
sion-oriented surveys. They will be the nautical charting surveys, or 
the surveys of the Navy which are not necessarily in response to the 
National Academy’s recommendation. They were going on before 
the recommendations were made. They are very definitely ocean- 
ography. They are applied oceanography. 
