102 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM—1965 
Mr. Rocers. The recommendations of the Panel are not now being 
carried out ? 
Commander Nyeren. Of the National Academy’s Panel, yes. We 
are attempting to carry these out in the future. The ships that were 
diverted were not ships originally justified for this type of work. 
They were hydrographic ships. 
Mr. Rocsrrs. This gets back to something I am concerned about— 
whether we have sufficient authority in this Interagency Committee 
to really do anything and get it done. 
As I understand it, the Panel has recommended a certain program, 
but somehow we have not gotten around to it since 1959. There is 
some contribution, maybe, in an offhand way, but what you have really 
recommended that is needed to be done on ocean surveys has not yet 
been done. 
Commander Nyeren. Yes, sir, and part of that is because of the 
fact there is such a long leadtime in the preparation of equipment, 
facilities, and so forth. 
Mr. Rocrrs. When were your recommendations first made? 
Commander Nyeren. 1959 was when the National Academy made 
its recommendation. 
Mr. Rocrers. How about your Panel? How long have you been 
trying to get this done? 
Commander Nyeren. I think this Panel fell right in line. 
Mr. Rocrrs. Immediately ? 
Commander Nyeren. Yes. 
Now, the first ship that was authorized for this, I believe, was in 
1962. There has been relatively little time loss. It takes time building 
the ship and staffing it. 
Mr. Rocers. And then what supervision do you have over the pro- 
gram once you have set up your recommendations and they have been 
accepted ? 
What does the Panel do to see it is carried out, or does that fall 
within your authority ? 
Commander Nycren. The Panel has no authority. It isan advisory 
panel. The ICO hasnoauthority. Itisan advisory group. 
Mr. Rocerrs. All you can do is make recommendations and hope they 
are carried out ? 
Commander Nyeren. That is correct. 
Mr. Rocers. If they are not, there is nothing you can do? 
Commander Nyeren. I do not know that there is nothing we can do, 
but we have no authority to take any executive action asa panel. That 
is correct. 
Mr. Rocrrs. Can you bring it to the attention of anyone who has 
authority ? 
Commander Nyeren. Yes; this is done. 
Mr. Rogers. What avenue of command would you go through ? 
Commander Nyeren. The Panel would point out to the Interagency 
Committee itself that certain action was required. The Interagency 
Committee would then act on this recommendation. The Panel itself 
acts through the [CO in every case. 
Mr. Roerrs. I understand that. Then he would have to go to the 
Federal Council ? 
Commander Nryeren. Well, not in every case; no, sir. 
