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vey Panel was thoroughly informed of its intentions as far as possible 
at the time. If you remember, this was a well coordinated activity 
in that there were participants of universities, the Navy Department, 
and the Coast Guard on the actual ship itself. 
So, it was part of a national oceanographic program without a bit 
of doubt. 
Mr. Bauer. I am quite surprised they were not driven off the Soviet 
coast. They were within 20 miles of the Soviet coast, were they not ? 
Commander Nyeren. I have heard that figure, yes, sir. 
Mr. Baver. Mr. Chairman, I think that is all I have, except one 
more question. 
Was this Operations Research, Inc., hired to devote its attention to 
ocean surveys or to the operations of the Coast and Geodetic Survey? 
Commander Nyeren. The ocean survey, without respect to any 
given agency. This was the national plan they were to look into and 
they have been forced. 
Mr. Bauer. The authority of the survey ? 
How many oceanographers do they have in the Operations Re- 
search Co.? 
Commander Nyeren. On their permanent staff, I don’t believe they 
have any oceanographers. 
They have a staff of consultants they call on for this, as well as using 
information furnished to them by the staffs of the various agencies. 
Mr. Baur. As I remember past hearings, the original ocean survey 
plan was written by Captain Hendricks of the Hydrographic Office, 
is that right? Then it was presented to the ICO and, as I remember, 
Dr. Stewart, of the Coast Survey, was made the head of the Survey 
Panel and came up with a recommendation of how to conduct the sur- 
vey of the oceans of the world. 
If my memory serves me correctly, the National Academy of Sci- 
ences committee frowned more or less on Dr. Stewart’s efforts. Then 
the plan went back into a situation of further consideration on the part 
of someone. Is it fair to say that we have not advanced very far since 
the original work of Dr. Stewart? 
Just how do we stand? I cannot see that we are getting ahead at 
ail on ocean surveys, unless I do not understand the testimony. 
Commander Nyeren. We have a general plan and we have com- 
pleted a substantial part of the prototype surveys in the North Pacific 
and from this we can evaluate the adequacy of the plan as NASCO 
has agreed to do. We can evaluate our performance under the plan 
and when we do go ahead into a more full-scale production, as we 
obtain more ships, we will have had a chance to eliminate any weak- 
nesses in the plan or performance under the plan. 
: ie have been going through a fairly effective tooling-up process 
or this. 
Mr. Baver. That is all I have. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. Rogers. I was interested in this company. When was this com- 
pany hired and what was it hired to do? 
Commander Nyeren. It was hired to conduct an operations research 
type analysis of the national ocean survey plan. 
Mr. Rocrrs. This is no oceanographic company ? 
Commander Nyeren. Mr. Chairman, that is a good question. 
