“108 NATIONAL OCEANOGRAPHIC PROGRAM—1965 
Mr. Rocrers. There is no oceanographic company ? 
Commander Nyeren. That is a good question, whether there should 
be an oceanographer in the company itself. This is an operations re- 
search type job where they evaluate information and methods. There 
is a feeling that to have an oceanographic competence of their own 
would possibly bias them. Obviously, they cannot do a job unless 
they are given information. They have quite specifically said that the 
output would be only as good as the input. 
People have been working with them to see that they were given the 
right information. 
There is the other philosophy that says only an expert can evaluate 
this type of work and I think, myself, that the decision went the right 
way, provided the company has been able to get proper input from the 
scientific people, and we feel it has. 
Mr. Rocrers. You may be right that a company should not know 
anything about the field it evaluates, but Iam not sure I agree with 
that. However, that may be correct. . 
I would be interested in having a little information on the company 
for the record, and I realize you may not have this here. 
Commander Nyeren. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Rocers. Information as to its personnel and officers? How long 
has this company been in existence, do you know ? 
Commander Nyeren. I do not know but I would not want to in- 
dicate it was not competent to discuss oceanographic problems. . They 
have had other contracts in the field. This was taken into considera- 
tion when their proposal was evaluated and they have done consider- 
able work in this area. 
Mr. Rocers. I would like to know when the corporation was formed 
and something about the contracts it has had in this field. 
Commander Nyeren. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Rogers. The extent of these contracts and the time element 
involved ? 
Commander Nyeren. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Rocers. And the consultants used by this company. 
Commander Nyerren. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Rogers. You say they call in consultants ? 
Commander Nyeren. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Rogers. Oceanographers and so forth ? 
Commander Nyeren. Yes, sir. They have a consulting firm of 
naval architects that has been furnishing them information on vessel 
design and vessel capability. 
Mr. Rocrrs. They do not know anything about that either, so far 
as their own experts are concerned? ‘They have experts in that field ? 
Commander Nyeren. They have no naval architects on their staff. 
Mr. Rogers. No naval architects or oceanographers ? 
Commander Nreren. I do not believe so. 
