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Texaco, Inc. 
Tidewater Oil Co. 
Trinidad Corp. 
United Fruit Co. 
United States Lines 
Mr. Drewry. I am interested in this point because I have talked 
personally with a number of people in the American shipping indus- 
try and they show a rather wide degree of interest in doing whatever 
they can to cooperate. It still sounds a little bit like a mystery to 
them, but they would like to know what they can do. With some 
300 ships among the subsidized lines alone that are crisscrossing all 
of the oceans of the world on routes where they could deviate as much 
as 100 miles on either side of their normal route without delaying their 
occupation, it would seem to me that there is a valuable source of 
survey assistance there that could be tapped. 
Captain TreapweELu. That is correct. 
Mr. Drewry. On the question of cost, I have talked to at least one 
maritime labor leader, a vice president of one of the nonlicensed unions, 
who expressed interest in it and foresaw no problem, as long as this was 
in connection with the national program, of causing any extra cost 
burden by virtue of the payment for the personnel who are on the 
ships who might do the reading. In fact, we got an indication they 
would like to do it. The duties of a seaman sometimes leave a little 
time on his hands. 
Captain Treapweti. We also have found the merchant marine, or 
anybody else, very cooperative once their connection with the program 
and the possible benefits of it were clearly pointed out. 
This really is the key point, to show how this will ultimately bene- 
fit them. 
Mr. Drewry. There is enough work that has to be done that there 
is no reason to expect that a program of this sort, this type of use. of 
ships of opportunity, would in any way conflict with the work of those 
institutions and agencies that are regularly engaged in oceanographic 
work, is there? 
Captain Treapweti. No; no possibility of that within the foresee- 
able future. The ocean isa very big place. 
Mr. Drewry. That isall, Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. Lennon. Do you have some other comments, Captain ? 
Captain TreapwEL. No, sir; I do not believe I have anything fur- 
ther. Oh, I am sorry, I do have a piece of information concern- 
ing the one company which was reluctant to cooperate. This was 
simply because they did not want to slow down to a speed of 15 knots. 
They felt that this would interfere with their operation. 
Mr. Lennon. You mean figuratively or literally ? 
Captain TreapweELL. Literally. 
Mr. Lennon. Captain, we appreciate your fine statement, and with- 
out objection your attached statistics and tables shall be included in 
the record as a part of your statement, and without further objection, 
if the information requested by Counsel Drewry could be furnished 
for the record, sir? 
(The material mentioned follows:) 
