Mr. Walsh. We were talking about this today, and we were 

 thinking about conducting a lottery of some sort. 



Mr. Studds. That is dangerous. 



Mr. Walsh. We could ZBB the names. The National Ocean Pollu- 

 tion Planning Act would be just as acceptable. 



Mr. Studds. I think some consideration should be given to the 

 resulting acronym. Was it you or the Department of State who 

 came up with the suggestion for Fishery Conservation and Manage- 

 ment Act of Basic Understanding Governing Offshore Fisheries? 

 Was that the State Department? 



Mr. Walsh. Ours was Governing International Fisheries Trea- 

 ties. 



Mr. Studds. Do you have anything better to suggest than that? I 

 understand we may have difficulty with the Science Committee, 

 who shares jurisdiction over this. 



Mr. Walsh. I think the Senate would say it is the House lan- 

 guage that came out. 



Mr. Studds. Is this something you bear responsibility for in your 

 earlier incarnation? 



Mr. Walsh. Yes, I drafted that. 



Mr. Studds. And you have had to live with that? 



Mr. Walsh. Every now and then you have to see if what you 

 suggested makes sense, and try to carry it out. 



Mr. Studds. It is a humbling task, but we will attempt to do 

 better. We will have informal consultations with the administra- 

 tion, and we will not ask most of the affected 11 agencies. We will 

 do our very best to come up with one. 



I want to thank you. I must say, when I first encountered the 

 statute with any degree of closeness, I was extremely skeptical that 

 we had done anything more than mandate a little more reporting 

 on your part to us. 



But you sound genuinely convinced that we have stimulated 

 something worthwhile. 



Mr. Walsh. I think it is working, Mr. Chairman. I think this 

 kind of exercise is extremely useful for one simple reason, and that 

 is that the decisions about funding tend to be made on an isolated 

 basis. It is only rarely that the Office of Management and Budget 

 will make a crosscut — that is, they will take a look at what like 

 programs are going on. 



Most budget examiners do not like crosscuts. Crosscuts are diffi- 

 cult and complex. This provides a very useful technique and proc- 

 ess for us to do a relatively good crosscut and comparison. At least 

 we know what everyone else is doing, and we will not step on their 

 toes. 



Mr. Studds. That is very encouraging. 



Mr. Pritchard has asked permission to submit questions in writ- 

 ing. His job will be to keep away those from his side that will be 

 trying to look for ways to save a little bit of money as we try to get 

 this bill on the floor. 



Thank you very much. The subcommittee stands adjourned. 



[The following was received for the record:] 



