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Switzerland Aug. 30, 1979. 



Tunisia May 13, 1976. 



Ukrainian SSR Mar. 6, 1976. 



United Arab Emirates Aug. 30, 1975. 



U.S.S.R Jan. 14, 1976. 



United Kingdom Dec. 17, 1975. 



United States Aug. 30, 1975. 



Yugoslavia July 25, 1976. 



Zaire Oct. 16, 1975. 



1 Under Article XIX the Convention enters into force on the 30th day following the date of 

 deposit of a Party's instrument of ratification or accession. 



2 The precise date will depend upon the date of the earliest deposit of Suriname's instrument 

 of ratification with one of the four depositories (Mexico, U.S.S.R., U.K., and U.S.). 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. Going on to an item that you have already al- 

 luded to in your testimony, this question of definition, and you 

 mentioned that you differentiated between waste, the disposal and 

 subseabed emplacement. 



Do you really have much knowledge of where that is heading, as 

 to whether you believe that a subseabed emplacement should come 

 under the convention, and should be regulated the same as a 

 disposal? 



Mr. Brown. I was not making a judgment as to whether it 

 should or should not be. 



The fact is that subseabed emplacement wasn't really considered 

 when the convention was negotiated. I do not think people 

 thought 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. I recognize that, and I am not challenging as to 

 whether or not you are making a judgment. 



It seems to me that at this point in time it is being discussed, 

 and therefore should — I would believe, clearly come under the 

 same international convention. 



Mr. Brown. There is certainly a good case to be made for it. 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. Is the United States pursuing that line of the 



Mr. Brown. Not at the moment, because we really do not even 

 know whether it is technically feasible to do, and an awful lot of 

 research is going to have to be done, and it is research that is not 

 terribly easy to do. 



We are dealing with deep waters, and deep sediments, and the 

 like, but it is 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. Do you not think we should get it under, even 

 though we do not know how we are going to regulate it, before we 

 suddenly find, somebody has got a bright idea, and away we go? 



Mr. Brown. Well, I think the point is well taken. I think per- 

 haps what we need to do is to — is to raise this, both within the 

 Government, that is our own Government, certainly with the scien- 

 tific community, and the parties to the convention; see what — how 

 other people think about it, what the sentiment is, is there suffi- 

 cient reason to think that 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. If it is going to happen, regardless, if there is that 

 potential, it seems to me that the International Regulatory Agency 

 ought to be right up front. 



Mr. Brown. If you are certain that you know what you are 

 regulating. I think that is probably the basic problem. 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. Yes. 



Mr. Brown. I am not sure we even know. 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. If not, see that that whole area is forcefully put 

 forward, because that, of course, is a trap that Ms. Mikulski was 



