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Is it your thinking that it should be the United Nations itself that 
we should work through? 
Senator Prix. No. My thought is the least government, the best 
government, which has always been a pretty good idea, and I would 
like to see an international ocean space regime set up under general 
U.N. auspices, but not under the day-to-day control of the United 
Nations. 
I think it best that we keep some aspect of the National Security 
Council involved because that gives the United States a veto power. I 
think any international authority involving the seas is going to have 
to concern the United States, the Soviet Union, and probably France, 
Britain, and Japan. They should all have a virtual veto on any long- 
ranging, lasting decisions affecting their national interests, but once 
these five can agree—and I am substituting Japan for China—it seems 
to me we could go ahead. 
The authority itself, as you know and I know, and each of you nas 
a copy of my proposal, would then move ahead granting licenses on a 
first-come-first-serve basis; when there is disagreement, the authority 
would refer it to an adjudicating body. There would also be set up an 
International Sea Guard along the lines of the Coast Guard; it would 
enforce the regulations set forth in my proposal. As you all know, 
anarchy now prevails beyond the territorial waters. 
For example you may have read of the murder committed on one of 
the Texas towers off the coast of Great Britain; no law applied in that 
case. By the same token, a mineral company or an oil company could be 
exploiting some resources beyond the ‘Shelf, and somebody else could 
steal them, in which case no law applies as of now. This must be 
changed, I think, to encourage industry. 
Mr. Rogers. Thank you very much. 
Again I want to say that I know the members of this committee ap- 
preciate the interest and the leadership that you have exerted in the 
Senate in this whole matter. 
Thank you. 
Mr. Lennon. Thank you, Mr. Rogers. 
May we go off the record for a moment ? 
(Discussion off the record.) 
Mr. Lennon. I will recognize our chairman, Chairman Garmatz. 
Mr. Garmarz. I have just this point. 
Senator, on page 5 you say you cannot comment on each of the Com- 
mission’s recommendations but that you have two specific proposals, 
and one of them is that you have introduced Senate bill, S. 2230, “re- 
moving the existing restriction on use of foreign-built fishing vessels 
by our commercial fishermen, as recommended by the Commission.” 
The House has a bill before it now, and we hope to pass it out soon, 
that we think will be helpful to the fisheries. I wonder if Congressman 
Pelly from the State of Washington will elaborate on that bill for just 
a second for the benefit of the Senator. : 
Mr. Peniy. Mr. Garmatz, it is pretty obvious that the role of the 
Congress has been to upgrade our fishing fleet which has some 18,000 
old and obsolete vessels, and I presume that Senator Pell’s objective is 
to do just that by enabling the fishermen to obtain their fishing vessels, 
as he has said, at about a third or 50 percent of the cost. 
