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having very substantial authority, I judge, to really, in case of neces- 
sitv, knock heads together ? 
Governor Scott. Yes, sir. I would say that if the authority is going to 
be effective, it would of necessity have to have teeth. 
Mr. Mosuer. It would have to be an umpire that really could say, 
“You do this and you do that,” and that sort of thing. 
Governor Scott. Yes, sir. I do believe that because, as I say, this age- 
old conflict with some of the varied interests has been with us for a long 
time and the matter of voluntary arbitration and getting together has 
not necessarily worked every time. 
Consequently an authority could bring about some of the needed 
action that we have been unable to bring about thus far. 
Mr. Mosuer. Now, the type of authority that you are talking about 
would be established by State law? You refer at the top of page 8 to, 
“The most important of these recommendations is that Federal legis- 
lation establish State coastal zone authorities,” but could the type of 
authority that you are talking about so far as North Carolina is 
concerned be established by State legislation ? 
Governor Scort. I think it would depend upon the overall broad type 
of program that would be implemented. If it were going to be some- 
what of a piecemeal program, then perhaps the individual States 
could do it. Obviously we could. 
But if this is to be a national program with all the States participa- 
ting, then it would seem to me that the Federal legislation would be 
needed. Otherwise some States might implement an authority, others 
might not. 
T think to be really effective as far as the national program would be 
concerned that we would need this type of thing all up and down the 
seashore. 
Mr. Mosuer. Mr. Chairman, I think we should take note of the Gov- 
ernor’s strong feeling that there is need for national legislation at this 
point and give serious consideration to that. 
Mr, Lennon. We certainly shall. 
Thank you, Mr. Mosher. 
The gentleman from Florida, Mr. Rogers. 
Mr. Rocers. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
Governor, your statement certainly shows the interest of North 
Carolina which we have known about, of course, through our chairman. 
I am sure you are aware of his leadership and the effort he has put 
forth to try to get this Nation moving into the sea. He has done a mag- 
nificent job here in the Congress and I know that North Carolina is 
proud of him, and the delegation are proud of you and what you are 
doing in Carolina. 
Do you have any difficulty getting your State Assembly to go along 
with appropriating funds for marine activities ? 
Governor Scorr. No, sir. We found them receptive and there was 
no real quarrel about it, even the appropriations therefor. 
Mr. Rocers. This is what we need to learn from you because we 
have difficulty getting the executive branch up here, as well as the 
Congress, to give enough funds. I would agree with you that I think 
when people adequately understand the benefits that will come from 
developing the resources of the sea and handling our natural resources 
properly, then we can generate enough interest. 
