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Your State certainly is an example of what is happening, and my 
State, too. I think they have grasped the importance of this. 
I was interested in your suggestion that rather than tackle the Gov- 
ernment reorganizational plan immediately, it would be well to move 
into the coastal zone authority as well as coastal zone laboratories. I 
would agree with you that this probably could be done and started 
although I would hope we would not hold back at the same time on the 
governmental reorganization. 
T don’t know why it cannot be done concurrently. We will have, I 
presume, a balancing for funds that we are going to have to consider, 
but I would think, if we can at least initiate the legislation to allow 
the States to proceed, that this would be helpful. 
I think your suggestion will be helpful to the committee in placing 
priority on action. I commend you for your interest and for what your 
State is doing, and I hope that we can move the Congress likewise. 
Governor Scorr. Thank you. 
Mr. Chairman, may I just comment to the gentleman’s statement 
that I think one of the reasons that we in North Carolina were able 
to enact the legislative measures which I mentioned here in my pre- 
pared statement was the fact that people are becoming more conscious 
in our State of the potential we have in the marine science area. There 
has been a lot of discussion about this in government and in the private 
sector in recent months. They have seen a lot of these individual 
activities going on that I referred to. 
With reference to the money, of course, obviously the administration 
would have used any amount the General Assembly would have seen 
fit to appropriate on beyond, but we were very pleased with this initial 
effort, and I think we are now committed to an aggressive program of 
developing our marine resources. 
I would say that there is a prevailing spirit of excitement in North 
Carolina about this potential that we have. We have very obviously 
seen what the State of Florida has done and the State of Texas and 
California, and some of these other areas that have been in this field 
for some time, and we look right here at our back door and see that 
we have the same opportunity and think: Why not make use of this 
potential? So that it is catching fire and we are very excited by it in 
North Carolina. 
Mr. Rogers. That is encouraging. I think many people here in 
Washington have not realized the broad base of support that the de- 
velopment of the seas will bring. This has not yet been grasped by 
some. I hope we can encourage this interest so that they will see the 
purpose of the development and the need for support. 
Thank you. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. Lennon. Thank you, Mr. Rogers. 
Mr. Pelly. 
_ Mr. Petry. First, Governor Scott, I want to thank you for mention- 
ing the contributions by our late Chairman and great friend, Herb 
Bonner. I don’t think many people recognized what a tremendous 
record he had for the Nation, and I, for one, was very happy that you 
haven’t forgotten that. 
When some of us were singled out and introduced to you, mention 
was made that some of us were on the Science and Astronautics Com- 
