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Just as an example. So I don’t think it is beyond possibility that 
this Congress may well change some priorities. [ think we are going 
to have to, in order to meet what I think are the real needs of this 
Nation. 
ADMINISTRATION’S INTEREST IN MARINE SCIENCES 
Dr. Wrenx. Mr. Rogers, I hear your message, and I will faithfully 
transmit this back to the Vice President and to the President, because 
I think this is an important thing you are saying. But I would like, 
if I may be permitted, Mr. Chairman, to comment on one or two of 
Mr. Rogers points. 
First, I want to reassure this committee that Dr. DuBridge, the 
President’s science adviser, is interested in marine affairs. I have had 
the most cordial personal ‘relations with Dr. DuBridge since he has 
been in office, and encouragement to proceed with the. programs that 
we are developing in the Council. From his point of view, obviously 
Dr. DuBridge has broader responsibility and must look at marine 
sciences in the context of all the other fields of science. But I re ally 
want to assure this committee that this relationship is a very, very 
healthy one. 
Now, on the matter, Mr. Rogers 
Mr. Rogers. May I just comment there? You know, this was one of 
our problems before. The President’s science adviser was not giving 
proper attention to this field and that is why we took it out of there 
and put it in the National Council. Now I haven’t seen enough action 
from the Council, nor have I seen its influence in the executive circles 
sufficiently showing itself to feel much confidence that you are even 
convincing the President’s science adviser of a priority of oceanog- 
raphy, and what it should be given. 
COUNCIL INITIATIVES 
Dr. Wenx. If I may just comment briefly on these points: No. 1, 
these letters referred to earlier by Chairman Lennon, particularly 
the report by the Vice President, reflect the early attention to and 
interest, of this administration in marine sciences. There is action oc- 
curring. My calendar is to provide advice and assistance to the Presi- 
dent on every major issue I can get through the Council, in terms of 
recommendations on the six major program areas of the Commission 
report, plus others that are emanating from our own office this fall, 
together with recommendations on budgets for fiscal year 1971. The 
President will have the opportunity of considering options, more 
options again in this matter of priorities, and I am doing my best to 
generate the best possible case for marine sciences. The Committee 
for Policy Review is not a substitute for the Council. Rather, the CPR 
and its task groups are added insurance of Council receiving recom- 
mendations that have been carefully evaluated and thus havine a 
higher probability of adoption. However. the Commission made a 
point in its report that in the long run, no Presidential staff can be an 
advocate for any single area, and I believe this is the key point 
