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are in the Department of Transportation and I think an effective arm 
as far as marine transportation safety is concerned. We are properly 
placed in that department. 
Were there to be an agency dealing with the oceans solely and the 
Coast Guard were put in it, I am confident that the Coast Guard 
could perform effectively under that agency. 
Mr. Karru. I must say that was an unfair question, considering the 
circumstances. 
Mr. Scuapeserc. Some of us at least informally have been thinking 
that probably the Coast Guard activities are so varied and so important 
that 1t ought to be a separate agency by itself, not having its various 
responsibilities spun off to other agencies that are taking part in some 
of their activity. 
That is all. Thank you. 
Mr. Lennon. Will the gentleman yield to me at that point? 
Mr. Scuapepere. Yes, sir; surely. 
Mr. Lennon. Admiral Trimble, I think the question in your mind 
and the question in the mind of those in the Coast Guard is the ad- 
ministrative policy of such a new Government structure with respect 
to the day-to-day operations of the Coast Guard. 
If the administrator or the chief executive of such an agency were 
oriented toward the science primarily, I can see how the Coast Guard 
could be affected in its day-to-day operations based on priority of 
funding when they went to the Bureau of the Budget. I am talking 
about this new separate agency, what would an administrator or direc- 
tor relay to the Bureau of the Budget in priorities and what effect 
it might have on the day-to-day operations of the Coast Guard. 
Would you care to comment on that? 
Admiral Trrwete. Mr. Lennon, I share the concern that Mr. Beggs 
has expressed in trying to mix day-to-day operations with the scien- 
tific side of such an agency. I am sure that much would depend upon 
the particular capability of the administrator and it could go either 
way. 
It could be a balanced program. But to cite one example, once the 
Stratton Commission report was publicized, I think there was a feeling 
in the trade, in the industry, that “Look at all this money that could 
be made available if this consolidation took place toward the scientific 
endeavors that were recommended in the Commission’s report.” Yet, 
as Mr. Beggs has mentioned, the dollar figures that would be consoli- 
dated are for the day-to-day missions of the existing agencies and 
unless there is a definite change in mission assignment, there wouldn’t 
be really any additional money that would be available for the tradi- 
tional endeavors that the Stratton Commission recommended. 
So right off there was a sort of public misinterpretation of the pro- 
posals. This alarms us, the fact that there was a thought that this 
money could be converted to the oceans right off. This is one reason why 
the Coast Guard has this concern. 
Mr. Lennon. We are delighted to welcome to the Subcommittee on 
Oceanography another distinguished Floridian. Mr. Frey we recognize 
you. 
Mr. Frey. Thank you, Mr. Lennon. I just learned this morning of 
appointment to this illustrious committee and J am very happy to join 
the chairman and my colleagues and especially my colleague from 
