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I don’t want to impose much longer on the committee’s time. I 
realize that the new team must be given time, and properly and cer- 
tainly will be given it, and I was hopeful that the new team would 
come in with such a fresh idea that they would say : 
This Commission has studied the problem set up for a two-year study. It has 
gone into this and recognized that we need a new organization and we are 
willing to go with them. 
rather than taking the old team’s attitude of saying: 
Well, we better keep everything in these departments just like they are. 
So that I hope the new team will come in, and I think your Depart- 
ment is beginning, I hope, to move in the area of a fresh idea, to say: 
Well, if it is the best thing for this Nation to have separate organization, we 
will go for it. 
I think you are saying this to me, or I hope so. Are you ? 
Dr. Trisus. Yes, but let me give you some evidence to help you 
have more confidence in the things T have said. We have already re- 
leased a program by MarAd fora ‘standardized multiship program. 
Mr. Rogers. What is your budget request to the Congress ? 
Dr. Tripus. I don’t have that number. 
Mr. Rogers. Well, I think you will find the budget request is less 
than this committee approved, much less, and much less than the 
Senate approved. 
This is the point I am making, that of course I realize there are 
many implications. I want some emphasis placed in the area, and I 
know you do too. What we need to get, is some action. Instead of always 
talking about planning and what we are going to do in the future, we 
need some action and that is what this committee is interested in. 
Your testimony has been most helpful, Mr. ‘Secretary, and I appre- 
ciate it and T think your attitude has been more encouraging than 
that of other Departments. Thank you. 
Mr. Lennon. Mr. Schadeberg. 
Mr. Scuaprperc. Mr. Chairman, I apologize for being late. I was 
unavoidably delayed. It would be presumptuous for me to ask any 
questions because T did not hear the presentation. 
T yield my time. 
Mr. Lennon. Mr. Downing. 
Mr. Downtne. Mr. Secretary, I was at another committee and didn’t 
listen to your testimony. I have read it, though. 
When do you think we could expect the views of the Department of 
Commerce on this matter of a proposed NOAA? 
Dr. Trrsus. Well, I am not sure quite how to answer that question, 
because the views Of the Department regarding NOAA to a very large 
extent are contained in my testimony. The only area in which we have 
not felt free to be quite explicit has to do with organizational aspects, 
because we are making recommendations and comments to the adminis- 
tration, but until the pros and cons of the various organizational prob- 
lems have been resolved, it does not seem proper for me to make those 
available. 
Mr. Downine. I didn’t ask you what the position was, but when are 
you going to let us know what your position is ? 
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