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We took it up directly with the president of Alpine and also at the 
same time with the vice president. 
_ Mr. Secretary, we are grateful for your appearance here this morn- 
ing. I won’t repeat it but I call your attention to the suggestion I 
made when we were off the record. We are on the record now. I have 
found that in our efforts to establish a national council that we had to 
have some round table discussion outside the committee room with 
the executive branch of the Government and with the Bureau of the 
Budget and others to reach agreement finally on the national council 
which the administration opposed and which 6 months later they told 
us they were happy that they accepted our mandate that we had to 
have that sort of setup as a minimum body until the Congress would 
consider the Commission report. when the report came to us. I think 
that 1s something which ought to be explored. 
Our next meeting will be tomorrow morning. The witness will be 
the Honorable Robert Frosch, Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 
Research and Development and Brig. Gen. F. P. Koisch, U.S. Army 
Corps of Engineers. 
Mr. Tran. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
(Whereupon, at 12:25 p.m. the subcommittee recessed, to reconvene 
at 10 a.m., Thursday, September 25, 1969.) 
