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Dr. Froscu. I am delighted to be invited to come before your com- 
mittee to speak on the Commission report and the companion legisla- 
tion H.R. 13247. 
Mr. Lennon. Now, Mr. Secretary, since you are before the commit- 
tee officially, am I correct in my statement to the effect that we did not 
receive copies of either your statement or Major General Koisch’s state- 
ment until this morning ? 
IT am now advised that we received General Koisch’s statement yes- 
terday afternoon. And am I advised correctly that we received your 
statement at 10 minutes to 9 this morning ¢ 
Dr. Froscu. I think that is correct, Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. Lennon. When did you submit your statement to the Bureau 
of the Budget ? 
Dr. Froscn. I can check that, but it was originally submitted to the 
Bureau of the Budget on August 8. 
Mr. Lennon. On August 8? 
Dr. Froscu. Yes. 
Mr. Lennon. When did you get clearance from the Bureau of the 
Budget ? 
Dr. Froscu. We resolved the final wording of the statement yester- 
day evening. 
Mr. Lennon. That is par for the course with respect to the agencies. 
I wish you would direct a communication, Mr. Counsel, to the 
Bureau of the Budget, and I will jointly sign it with the chairman of 
the committee. I am sure that he will join with me in our insistence 
that there is on the part of the Bureau of the Budget a little cooperation 
with the agencies of the Government who work so cooperatively with 
the legislative committees who have an equal responsibility. 
Sometimes I am concerned about this philosophy of the three inde- 
pendent branches of the Federal Government, the executive, legis- 
lative, and judicial. There needs to be cooperation between them. It 
has not worked out that way. We are getting the results of the lack of 
it this morning. 
Now you may proceed, sir. 
Dr. Froscu. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
On May 19 the President referred the Commission report to the 
President’s Advisory Council on Executive Organization. He asked 
this Council to review the organization recommendations made by 
the Commission on Marine Sciences, Engineering, and Resources in 
the context of broader organizational requirements. He asked that 
the Commission’s proposal be compared with alternative ways of 
coordinating and advancing national development of marine science. | 
In light of this Presidential action it seems inappropriate to take 
action on the proposed Commission organizational recommendations 
until alternatives have been studied. 
Mr. Lennon. Mr. Secretary, would you identify for the record the 
President’s Advisory Council on Executive Organization that you 
referred to, to which you state that on May 19 the President referred 
the report? What advisory commission on executive organization ? 
Dr. Froscu. I believe this is the group that is referred to as the 
Ash Commission. 
Mr. Lennon. Just to keep,thé record straight, as we have in the 
past, we have in our files, and it has been introduced in the record, 
