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Mr. Lennon. Why ? 
Dr. Froscu. I am unable to say. It was there originally and was 
never moved. 
Mr. Lennon. Here now you move the Coast Guard into the Depart- 
ment of Transportation on the philosophy that it is inexorably tied 
to the Maritime interests related to transportation, but we keep Mari- 
time over here in still another department. Why? 
Dr. Froscu. Iam unable to say, Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. Lennon. Thank you, sir. Neither am I. Go ahead. 
Dr. Froscrr. It also seems clear that the large number of functions 
assigned to NOAA would require more resources than will be brought 
to it by the organizations that will come together to form it initially. 
The matter of additional staff strengthening is not addressed ade- 
quately in the Commission report. It is probable that a natural recruit- 
ing ground for initial staff augmentation might be from the Navy 
program, particularly in the area of ocean engineering and technology 
Some such assistance to founding the civihan program in this field 
might well be wise, but unless carefully thought out and accomplhshed 
the result might really be to cripple a Navy program that the Com- 
mission wants preserved, rather than to increase the national program 
and capability. 
This point should be examined carefully in light of our comer com- 
ments on the usefulness of Navy technological programs and the need 
for Navy research programs in this field, and the necessary detailed 
planning to avoid unnecessary difficulties accomplished before pro- 
ceeding with the proposed NOAA, 
I would like to digress a moment and just say that what we ar 
highlighting here are things that concern us, that might form diffi- 
culties within the Government or for the national security interests 
in the course of establishing NOAA if it were to be established. 
I don’t in any sense want to imply that these are insuperable diffi- 
culties but only that they need to be carefully handled or we will find 
some problems that we didn’t look for on our hands. 
Mr. Lennon. That leads me, Mr. Secretary, you having raised the 
probability that “a natural recruiting ground for initial staff augmen- 
tation might be from the Navy programs,” to say that right at this 
point the Navy has announced its plans to mothball some of its ocean- 
ography and other types of vessels of that kind such as the Zee and 
the Aeller, haven’t they ? 
Dr. Froscu. We have some problems with oceanographic ships 
certainly. 
Mr. Lennon. Let’s talk about the new ships that you are planning 
now to mothball. 
What type of vessel is the Gillis? 
Dr. Froscu. The G//is is an ocean research ship. 
Mr. Lennon. What about the Davis? 
Dr. Froscu. That is an oceanographic ship. 
Mr. Lennon. That is a new ship ? 
Dr. Froscw. That isa relatively new ship. 
Mr. Lennon. What are your plans now for that vessel ? 
Dr. Froscn. I would have to supply that for the record, Mr. 
Chairman. 
