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tween the military and civilian with all sorts of concomitant again, 
rough edges and problems. 
So that none of these things come easily, but let me ask you, Gen- 
eral, the same thing as I just asked the Secretary. Where do you feel 
that the present coordination is on this ranking of perfect or ideal or 
excellent, good, fair, and poor? Where would you put the present type 
of coordination of ocean and atmosphere ? 
General Korscn. In the subject that we are discussing I think you 
have to recognize that our experience in what you might call the deep 
ocean as against the coastal zone and Great Lakes is relatively nil, so 
that I can only speak in terms of the coast zone and the Great Lakes. 
We find the coordination essentially to be excellent and yet you 
must realize also that there are a great many conflicts involved. 
Some of the things that we are doing are in direct conflict with 
Interior’s aims in life, and yet there is coordination. We do talk to 
each other. We discuss the problems, who is going to fund for what 
things for study. 
Mr. Detienpack. There is a great deal of cooperation as well as 
coordination ? 
General Korscu. I repeat again that I am talking only in terms of 
the coastal zone and Great Lakes. 
I have no experience in the deep ocean as such. 
Mr. Dewiensack. But you find it to be good at the present time? 
General Korscu. And there are other checks on us. The final check 
you might say comes out at the Bureau of the Budget. So there is no 
duplication in that sense. Who is suggesting to pursue what. program 
comes out from discussions among agencies. In the things that go to 
the Marine Council and the programs that are pushed, we find some 
lack of what one might call a truly positive statement of the national 
goal in this area. 
Mr. De.ienpack. I question whether that might not be forthcoming 
more readily under a coordinated agency than under the present ag- 
glomeration of more or less many agencies. 
May I close, Mr. Chairman, by backing very strongly the request 
you made earlier that we ask both the Army Corps, if we may, and 
also the Navy to supplement testimony, if they would do so, against 
what you, General, put as your basic choice would be perhaps not to 
do this, but if we did it, what specific changes or what specific sugges- 
tions would you make relative to the plan that is set forth in the bill 
that is under consideration? While there is some of that involved in 
your testimony, I think it would be valuable to us to get an amplifica- 
tion if we can do it both from the Department and from the Corps, if 
you will give us that additional help. 
General Kotscu. We would be happy to doit. 
Mr. Detienpack. Thank you very much. 
(The following information was supphed by the Department of the 
Navy:) 
Under the circumstances that the question was asked, which I understand to 
be that if there is to be a NOAA, what changes in H.R. 13247 should be made, 
the following is submitted : 
(1) Page 6 line 24 after the words ‘marine environment” insert “(as deline- 
ated by the provisions of the act of August 6, 1947 ch 504, as amended (33 USC 
883a et seq.) )” 
