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much they can contribute to our national oceanographic effort. Perhaps such an 
analysis would reveal information and developments that are useful for civilian 
purposes. 
We had the ICO with the Navy participating and the other 
agencies, I am talking about the Interagency Committee on Oceanog- 
raphy, and then we had the National Council, and yet no one at any 
level has insisted that the Navy have an analysis made of the data that 
has been accumulated by the Navy that could be used for civilian 
purposes. 
Why, doctor? Because you have not had any single agency charged 
with this sole responsibility to do what you say ought to have been 
done years ago. Is that a fair statement ? 
Dr. McEtroy. As far as I understand you, it sounds like a fair 
statement. 
Mr. Lennon. Put it in your own words. You are the one who is tell- 
ing me that you have often wondered why the Navy’s vast, longstand- 
ing and expert technological efforts in the oceans have not been ana- 
lyzed to determine how they can be used for civilian purposes. 
Why has that not been done? 
Dr. McEtroy. I cannot answer that. 
Mr. Lennon. Who would have the responsibility to do it? Who 
would have the responsibility to continue the proliferation of this 
program in 11 agencies? 
You raised the questions, but you don’t give any answers. 
Dr. McEnroy. I have not had an opportunity to answer that partiec- 
ular one but I will be glad to try. 
I would say if the Navy is directed to do this, it would do it if is 
given the funds. 
Mr. Lennon. Doctor, I am reminded that on the Stratton Commis- 
sion there was an Assistant Secretary of the Interior. There was an 
Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and there was Dr. White, the Admin- 
istrator of ESSA. 
T can understand the unwillingness and proper restraint on these 
gentlemen to join in the Commission’s recommendations with respect 
to a particular Government structure. But since one of those three has 
left the administration and is a private individual, he has stated em- 
phatically and categorically and definitively that in his judgment this 
was the way to move. 
Now, in addition to that, Dr. White gave us this reply, and I think 
it was a little embarrassing to the Assistant Secretary of the Depart- 
ment of Commerce who appeared before this committee, who was say- 
ing, “Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, you ought to con- 
sider many, many alternatives.” 
He said: “The Commission’s report does not show that they have 
considered many alternatives.” 
I said, “Well now, Mr. Secretary, let’s turn to the gentleman sitting 
right at your left, Dr. White, who was a member of the Commission, 
and ask him if they did go into substantive detail as to what other 
alternatives there were.” 
T said, “Dr. White, what is your answer ?” 
Dr. White said, “Yes, sir. We considered all the alternatives.” 
Yet the gentleman representing the Department of Commerce in- 
ferred that there were no alternatives considered by this Commission, 
but fortunately Dr. White cleared the record on that. 
