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Humphrey and it became a viable organization and made a great con- 
tribution. 
But if we followed the recommendation of the powers that be in the 
power structure, as you call it, at the Washington level, the executive 
branch of the Government, we wouldn’t have had it. We wouldn’t have 
had anything. They wanted the status quo. 
Dr. McExroy. I think it is interesting that it was about that time 
that I was on PSAC, and I modestly say that I was instrumental in 
trying to get this study underway. I have a copy of that study here 
today. If you want to see the report I will send it to you. 
It does not disagree with the Commission in regard to the science 
and what we need to be doing in science. 
Mr. Lennon. Now, you say on page 10, the last paragraph : 
I firmly believe that the Commission’s organizational recommendations must 
be considered in the context of the total Federal structure for the future, par- 
ticularly with regard to science, technology, and education. 
Who do you suggest ought to consider this other than this commit- 
tee? Are you talking about the Ash Commission ? 
Dr. McEnroy. No, I am talking about this committee. I think it is 
very important for this committee to consider this. 
Mr. Lennon. Do you know anything about the Ash Commission ? 
Dr. McExroy. I only know it by name. I have had no contact with it. 
Mr. Lennon. We know that the President mandated the Ash Com- 
mission on, I think it was, May 19 to make a specific study of the Com- 
mission’s report particularly as it was related to government struc- 
ture, and we have in the file a photostatic copy of the memorandum 
from the President to the Ash Commission, so that we assumed that 
by approximately mid-September that the Ash Commission would 
have at least given some thought to the matter. 
So we calied them on September 10 and they said, no, they hadn’t 
even organized yet, and on September 11 they advised us that: 
We hope to launch a study within the next month or two. After we get into 
the problem, we will be in a better position to estimate how much longer it may 
take to consider the study. 
Dr. McEnroy. I will say, Mr. Lennon, what I have said earlier, that 
I think that the science, from the studies going back 15 years ago at 
the National Academy of Sciences, followed on by the PSAC study, 
followed on by the Commission’s report, is clearly identified, and I 
think we are ready to move and, even more, move more vigorously 1n 
support of the scientific component of the marine environment. 
Mr. Lennon. Doctor, what is your judgment and evaluation of the 
members of the Stratton Commission ? 
Dr. McExroy. Evaluation of what? Tam sorry. 
Mr. Lennon. What is your judgment and evaluation of the indi- 
viduals who compose the Stratton Commission, starting with Dr. 
Stratton ? 
Dr. McEtrroy. The people I know I think very highly of. 
Mr. Lennon. How many did you know? 
Dr. McExory. I know Dr. Stratton. I think very highly of him. I 
know Dr. Geyer from Texas A. & M., an outstanding person. I know 
Mr. Blaustein, he lives in Baltimore where I formerly lived. Dr. 
Crutchfield, an economist, I know and think very highly of. John 
