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the national sea grant college program. We encourage the develop- 
ment of consortia between industries and universities and colleges for 
the purpose of making the most effective use of the talents, com- 
petencies, and facilities ‘of both. 
The industrial input to the program is normally through the uni- 
versity, who is our direct grantee. 
With respect to your question about the intrusion of the sea grant 
program into development, I would rather emphasize our respon- 
sibility for applied research, and we are encouraging applied research 
in fields such as agriculture, aquatic reaction, marine pharmacology, 
or drugs from the sea and programs relating to location and develop- 
ment of mineral resources. 
We do not, however, deal with heavy civilian technology in perhaps 
the sense that is implied in the Commission’s report; that is, dealing 
W a Hark engineering. 
Mosumr. Mr. Chairman, f wish the gentleman from Florida, 
Mir. osens was here to refresh our memory a little bit about the his- 
tory of the creation of the sea grant program, but I think it is good to 
have it in the record at this point. 
As I remember it, the Members of Congress most interested in 
establishing the sea orant program were anxious from the start that 
it be part “of an agency in which there was coordination of ocean 
activities. 
There was a great deal of discussion with the Bureau of the Budget 
and among our selves, although I wasn’t one of the prime movers here, 
but among the members of the committee, a great deal of discussion 
with the Bureau of the Budget as to where it belonged, even in advance 
of creating any organization like NOAA, which, of course, many 
members of this committee favored as long ago as 1964 or 1965. 
Even in advance of that there was a desire to get the sea grant 
program going and so the « question was where to put it tentatively at 
least. or tempora rily, and on the advice of the Bureau of the Budget 
and with, I think, the unanimous agreement of all of us, it finally was 
placed in the National Science Foundation, at least temporarily and 
tentatively. There was always that temporary and tentative emphasis. 
It was placed there because we all recognized and acknowledg ed that 
the National Science Foundation had developed a very effective sys- 
tem for recognizing excellence and defining the certain scientific needs 
and selecting the people who should receive grants and the universities 
that should receive grants. 
We all recognized that the National Science Foundation has an ex- 
eelent procedure for this, and so that is really why the sea-grant 
college program,landed in the National Science Foundation. 
But just for the record, historically, it should be recognized that 
Congress always thought of this as a tentative and temporary 
assignment. 
Dr. McErroy. Yes, sir. I think that is a correct statement, Mr. 
Mosher. I was in on that discussion. 
Mr. Mosuer. Mr. Chairman, that is all I have. 
Mr. Lennon. Thank you, Mr. Mosher. 
Mr. Lennon. Doctor, I have here in my hand the report of the panel, 
of which you were a member, headed by Dr. Donald Hornig, which 
was submitted to the White House, I assume, since it is so dated, June 
