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man, that this very able witness has eloquently alluded to the bene- 
fits with which flow from NOAA in this increased coordination 
between the study of areas, between basic research and the application 
of research, between Gov ernment work and private sector work, and 
then the increased emphasis that would be placed on this whole pack- 
age, which is an essential to leading to the increased funding necessary 
to accomplish that which we seek to y accomplish. 
Task for no comment on that. That is my summary of what I think 
has been very helpful and very eloquent testimony. 
Thank you very much, Doctor. 
Dr. Gautier. Thank you, sir. 
Mr. Lennon. Thank you, Mr. Dellenback. I commend you. I wish 
it had been possible for you to have been here to question our dis- 
tinguished Director of the National Science Foundation, Mr. McElroy. 
I recognize the distinguished gentleman from Michigan, Mr. Ruppe. 
Mr. Rupre. I have no questions, but I wish to commend the gentle- 
man for a most excellent and informative statement. 
Dr. Gatter. Thank you, sir. 
Mr. Lennon. Doctor, you heard my question to Dr. McElroy con- 
cerning funding for fiscal 1968 and 1969 in the budget request. 
I know we are dealing with an entirely different type of organiza- 
tion in the Smithsonian, but there is Federal funding to the Smith- 
sonian Institution ? 
Dr. Gatter. Yes, sir. 
Mr. Lennon. Could you or either of the gentlemen with you give 
us the actual Federal funding for fiscal 1968 ‘and 1969, and the budget 
request for fiscal 1970 for the Smithsonian Institution ? 
Dr. Gatier. May I ask may colleague, Dr. Wallen, to respond to 
that ¢ 
Mr. Lennon. You can submit the figures for the record, but can you 
approximate it ? 
Dr. Watten. Mr. Chairman, I can give only an approximation, but I 
will be glad to furnish it for the record. 
Mr. Lennon. If you would, please. 
(The information was not supplied. ) 
Dr. Watuen. Perhaps before I say this I should preface it with 
the remark that the Smithsonian has quite a number of bureaus, and 
that the budget which I wish to report to you is an additive budget, 
which is not ‘entirely identified as the separate budget of the Office of 
Oceanography, but funds that are contained within the bureaus. 
Mr. Lennon. Talking about the Smithsonian Institution as a whole? 
Dr. Wauten. Yes. 
As a whole, the total amount requested, approximately, in 1968 and 
1969 and 1970 was essentially the same, approximately $2.8 million. 
The amount of money : appropriated in each of the first 2 years was 
approximately $2.5 million. 
The amount of money requested from the Congress in 1970 was 
approximately $2.6 million. 
Mr. Lennon. The reason I asked that is that while you just could 
not find it in figures related to the National Science Foundation ap- 
proximation of anywhere from $450 million to a half billion dollars, is 
there any possibility that there is an overlapping or duplication in the 
