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jections that by the year 2000, which is only 30 years away, we will 
have a population of 38 million people. 
Tt is obvious that we have some massive planning problems in terms 
of every function of life, and the ocean, since it is almost an untouched 
natural resource, comes at the top of my list. That is the reason I am 
here today. That is the reason we are all so very interested in doing an 
effective job to be sure that whatever the direction the Federal Gov- 
ernment in the wisdom of this committee goes, it will be adequately 
coordinated with the State government. 
Thank you very much. 
Mr. Rocrrs. Thank you very much, Governor Reinecke. Your state- 
ment is excellent. It has many, many good points, and I know this 
committee will want to consider placing them in the legislation. I hope 
also that you will make your views known to the administration di- 
rectly. I think it would be most helpful to the Council, to the Vice 
President, and to the President, to know that California is not afraid 
of reorganization. I see you have done it in your own State and evi- 
dently you have done it in spite of some parochial interests of depart- 
ments that we are facing here in the Federal Government. 
We have had some of the departmental witnesses come up and—as 
is natural and I am sure you saw it when you were here— indicate they 
are afraid to let any constituent agency get out of their control. 
I think your statement is excellent and will be most helpful to the 
committee. 
Mr. Mosher ? 
Mr. Mosurr. Well, Mr. Chairman, I want to echo what you have 
just said. I think that Governor Reinecke’s statement is certainly one 
of the most significant that we have had here. It sparkles with specific 
suggestions that are going to be very helpful and that are going to 
deserve our very active consideration. 
I think it is especially significant because of the Governor’s own 
background of experience on this committee, itself, which has given 
him perspective, because of the fact that he is the Lieutenant Governor 
of the largest State in the Union with tremendous problems in this 
area, because of his own Navy background and his experience at sea 
and because of his own personal career background in engineering and 
science and his successful experience in those areas. 
All of these experiences give Mr. Reinecke a very special perspective 
on the problems that this committee faces on the legislation that we 
are considering, and therefore it is very hopeful that he endorses the 
bill so completely. 
I join you, Mr. Chairman, in hoping that he will speak directly to 
the administration and seek the administration’s support for the ef- 
forts that this committee is making. 
Mr. Rogers. If the gentleman would yield there. 
Mr. Mosuenr. I yield. 
Mr. Rocers. I would hope that when the President gets out to San 
Clemente that you would get him in the ocean there and talk to him 
and forcefully let him have your views because I think they are great, 
and I share Mr. Mosher’s feelings. 
Mr. Mosuer. Well, Mr. Chairman, there are so many useful recom- 
mendations and suggestions for strengthening the bill contained in 
this testimony that I am at a loss to know where to begin in trying to 
