Mr. Rocers. Thank you. 
Mr. Downing. : 
Mr. Downrne. Governor, I can’t begin to tell you what a genuine 
pleasure it is to have you back on the Hill. You were a valuable mem- 
ber of this committee and a valuable Member of Congress, and I value 
our personal friendship. 
You have made a significant statement, I think one of the best we 
have received in these hearings. Certainly it will be studied and where 
possible implemented. That is all. 
It is good to see you. 
Mr. Rernecke. Thank you. 
Mr. Rocers. We are honored to have with us today the ranking 
member of our full committee, Mr. Maillard. _ 
Mr. Mailliard, we are pleased to have you with us, and you may 
want to make a comment. 
Mr. Martirarp. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
I want to echo what the other members of the committee have said. 
T am only an ex officio member of this subcommittee, and I have a great 
admiration for the members of this subcommittee in the way they 
have gone into this tremendously complicated and very important 
problem, and your testimony is, as everyone has said, very helpful. 
I would like to ask one specific question, though. While you indicate 
in your statement the support of this bill, and I confess my own lack 
of knowledge of the detailed provisions of the bill, it seems to me that 
you have stressed a very important thing and that is the essential 
degree of coordination that is going to be required to really utilize 
all of the potential resources that we have to attack these problems. 
Would you have the resources within the State government to make 
some specific amendment suggestions because I get the impression that 
you don’t think the bill as written really does provide the degree of 
coordination that is desirable. 
Mr. Rernecke. Well, frankly, yes, that is right. I don’t feel that it 
goes far enough. I believe the bill should make it possible for particu- 
larly this development of the coastal zone authorities that can work 
with NOAA or whatever the Federal agency turns out to be. 
In the case of California our new department of marine and ocean 
development is already funded. It is an ongoing program that has 
been there for years, and as such it is in the budget and will be 
enhanced continually as we can develop meaningful programs to go 
along with it, but we need this in conjunction with the funding of 
NOAA, the planning of NOAA, the coordination with NOAA, the 
granting of research and development. grants through NOAA in order 
to make the overall program a comprehensive one, one that recognizes 
the national goals as well as the state goals. 
Mr. Mairiiarp. We have had some experience in this committee with 
the difficulties of framing proper legislative language to accomplish 
some of these objectives, such as during the extensive hearings we had 
on the Motor Boat Act some years ago, trying to figure out how to 
get the States in their proper role and the Federal Government in its 
proper role. If any of your staff people or technical people have the 
time to help us with legislative language to accomplish these objec- 
tives, we would appreciate it. 
