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With respect to the Government structure, naturally we found as 
we expected to find, some hesitancy to move along in this direction. We 
found on the other hand that this Commission’s report has done a 
great deal to stimulate the various agencies, especially the Depart- 
ment of the Interior and even the Department of Commerce and 
Department of Transportation, to try to enlarge their scope of par- 
ticipation in the marine sciences. 
_ They all now seem to indicate to us that they have the capability 
in their respective departments to take over the suggested tasks laid 
down to us by the Commission. 
_ We expected that. As a matter of fact, I think some of them moved 
in this direction before the report came out. I saw signs of it. 
_As you know, the Commission included a Government representa- 
tive at the Secretary level or at least assistant secretary of the Navy, 
Assistant Secretary of the Department of the Interior, and of course 
Dr. White who is the Administrator of the Environmental Science 
Services Administration in the Department of Commerce. 
We noted that quite early this year before the Commission report 
came out that there was a movement in the Department of the Interior 
in this direction. We commend them for it and question why they have 
not done it before. 
So that with your influence that you have with the present ad- 
ministration, we hope that we can get from the administration some 
definite recommendations that will at least put us in a position that 
we won’t have a fight on the floor when we hopefully bring this bill 
to the floor before the conclusion of the first session of the 91st 
Congress. 
I know you are interested in it. In my judgment there has never 
been a more sincere man than you, I say as a dear friend, who worked 
harder as a Member of Congress and of this committee. 
I do know you are doing a good job out in California, and we are 
very happy to have you here as a witness. 
Mr. Retnecke. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 
I can assure you that I will make these views known to the 
administration. 
Again, frankly, I had not done so until I had first exposed them 
here to this committee, but I shall do so. ! 
Mr. Lennon. I think the gentleman knows that the bill was intro- 
duced simply as a vehicle, as a feeler, and was sent out, and every 
member of this subcommittee on both sides of the aisle is a cosponsor 
of that legislation. We are proud of the fact that this committee has 
always been one that was not interested in anything other than that 
we hoped to do what was in the national interest without regard to 
any partisan politics at all. This is an area in which we shouldn't have 
partisan politics in my judgment. LACE 
Mr. Retnecne. I certainly have admired the work and inspiration 
which you have provided for this committee, Mr. Chairman. I cer- 
tainly want to work with you now as I did several years ago. 
Mr. Lennon. Thank you very much, Governor, for your appearance. 
Mr. Retnecke. Thank you i 
Mr. Lennon. Now we are delighted to have with us Dr. T. S. Austin, 
the director of the National Oceanographic Data Center. 
