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A little over 2 years ago, now, I requested the Governor of North 
Carolina, where the legislature was not then in session, to establish 
a Marine Science Council in North Carolina to coordinate the marine 
science activities, and I requested the members of this subcommittee 
to in turn request their respective Governors, if they were coastal 
or lake States, to establish such a Marine Science Council, comparable, 
hopefully, to what you have done in California. 
Incidentally, you know that the distinguished gentleman that you 
referred to a few minutes ago, Lt. Governor Ed Reinecke, is a former 
very active member of this subcommittee. 
Dr. Cuaprman. He is a distinguished graduate of your excellent 
school who is doing us much good in California. 
Mr. Lennon. And heisa fine gentleman. 
The Governor responded to that, and I do know that the Governors 
of some of the other States have responded to the request of the mem- 
bership of this committee to do the same thing. 
Subsequently, when the legislature of our State convened, I asked 
that it be made a statutory body, and it is now a statutory body, as a 
result of the action of the last session of the General Assembly of 
North Carolina, and it has been very effective, in my judgment, at 
least, in the short time it has been a statutory body, in coordinating 
the activities of private individuals as well as the universities and 
coastal zone areas. 
Another thought comes to me, Mr. Counsel. In connection with 
the convening here on 28 and 29 October, as you may know about, 
we have invited the Governors of some 30 States to send their rep- 
resentatives here for a two-day conference, to explore how we can 
do what you suggested, maintain the integrity of the State or local 
level with respect to the coastal zones, but at the same time provide the 
Federal leadership which we recognize must be a part of this whole 
picture. 
Tf you could find time, Mr. Counsel, I would like for the statement 
of the gentleman, Dr. Chapman, to be read at this symposium that 
is going to be here on the 28th and 29th of October, that this committee 
is sponsoring. 
Would you object to this? 
Dr. Cuapman. I would not. Thank you. 
Mr. Jones. Mr. Chairman, would you yield ? 
Mr. Lennon. I will yield. 
Mr. Jonus. If Dr. Chapman can make himself available, I suggest 
that we let him read his own statement. 
Mr. Lennon. If Dr. Chapman can be here on either of those days, 
we would find time to inject you into the program. 
Even though the program has already been set up for speakers and 
moderators, | am sure that we can find time for you to read this 
statement. 
Dr. Cuapman. We have made provision for our staff men from our 
California Council and Commission to be here. I am a little squeezed 
for time, but suppose I talk with Professor Clingan and see what we 
can work out. 
Mr. Lennon. All right, sir. If you cannot, you designate someone 
to do it. It will not take more than 15 or 20 minutes, but I think it 
ought to be read. I think it will be a challenge, particularly as related 
to the coastal zone problem that we are trying to explore. 
