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from various people, and suggest to the administration moves that 
‘can be taken beyond these first five moves that I referred to today. 
To what extent they will consult with the Ash Council on the orga- 
nizational problems I don’t know. I think they probably will discuss 
with them some of the problems and no doubt make some remarks, 
but I think their main thrust will be what can the administration 
propose to the Congress for next year’s program to make substantive 
progress in the marine field. 
Mr. Mosuzmr. So the Wakelin Task Force will be considering orga- 
nizational matters as well as programmatic matters ? 
Dr. DuBrince. They will certainly have to think about how these 
things are implemented through the organizational structure, but they 
are not to replace the Ash Council in its definitive recommendation 
to the administration as to the organizational structure of the 
‘Government. 
Mr. Mosuerr. And the recommendations of the Wakelin Task Force 
are likely to show up in administration policy possibly as soon as the 
President’s state of the Union address next January ? 
Dr. DuBrincr. That is the intention of all these task forces, to 
provide the President material for his messages early next year. 
_ Mr. Mosuer. Mr. Chairman, I have taken more time than I should, 
but I would like to ask one more question. 
You have borne down rather heavily on the problem of the Coast 
Guard and where it should be placed and have sug egested that placing 
it in NOAA would be a very disruptive influence in the Department 
of Transportation. 
Is that the only example or is that the most horrible example? 
Dr. DuBriner. Well, that was one example that occurred to me as 
illustrative of the point I was trying to make. The Coast Guard has 
many functions other than just looking at the oceans. 
It regulates transportation and shipping and does many other 
things, and does some research in the ocean field. It is the one agency 
of the Department of Transportation which has to do with marine 
transportation. It would seem that some link to the seas, to marine 
transportation, is an essential activity and responsibility of the 
Department of Transportation. If one were to remove the Coast 
Guard, the Department would have to create some new organization 
I would think to work on the problem of ocean and lake “and river 
transportation. 
But there are other situations. The ESSA organization is pretty 
heavily imbedded in the Department of Commerce and has many links 
to the industrial world and the activities of the Department of 
Commerce. ‘ 
T think you will recognize the Stratton Commission didn’t suggest 
extracting the various marine activities from the Department of the 
Navy, but within the Navy Department are some of our biggest and 
most important marine activities and clearly it’s a little difficult to 
extract those from the Navy. 
That really wasn’t suggested, but is another example of how marine 
activities are imbedded 1 In many departments and activities. 
There are many activities in the Department of the Interior which 
are difficult to segregate out simply because they happen to deal with 
the ocean as related to water supplies and water problems generally. 
