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In terms of other site designation beyond the dredge material 
sites, I think it is somewhat unclear other than the site designation 
I mentioned previously in terms of our consideration of the 106- 
mile site—— 
Mr. ForsyTHE. 206? 
Mr. ScuHatzow. 106-mile site, and the petition by New York and 
the New Jersey municipalities to redesignate the 12-mile site. 
Mr. ForsyTHE. Can you tell us what amounts are contained in 
your budget request for the fiscal years 1983, 1984, and 1985 for 
site designation? 
Mr. Scuatzow. We do not have any budget submission for the 
fiscal years 1984 and 1985. For our 1983 submission I believe it is 
in the vicinity of $2 million. Let me check on that. It is $3.5 million 
to include costs of personnel and extramural support. 
Mr. ForsyTHE. Thank you. I see my time has expired. Thank you 
Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. D’Amours. Thank you Mr. Forsythe. The other gentleman 
from New Jersey, Mr. Hughes, is recognized. 
Mr. HuaGues. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
My colleague from Delaware has another major commitment and 
I would like to yield to him if I may. 
Mr. Evans. I thank my friend from New Jersey for yielding. 
Ms. Hurd, I will be very brief. First of all, I would like you to 
pass on to Ms. Gorsuch, the Administrator, that I am still con- 
cerned about EPA’s failing to question Judge Sofaer’: decision in 
the Southern District Court of New York. I think it was your re- 
sponsibility to appeal that decision and you did not do so. 
I am also very concerned about the adequacy of the level of fund- 
ing for research and monitoring. Specifically, you have mentioned 
in your statement, I believe, on page 4, that dumping at the origi- 
nal Philadelphia dump site that was just 10 miles off Cape May, 
N.J., and then dumping at the new Philadelphia dump site 40 
miles farther out to sea, was stopped in 1980. The reason that was 
stopped was because we told them to stop. It was an incentive to 
stop dumping harmful sewage sludge in the ocean. You further say 
that the site has also purified itself to the extent that recent stud- 
ies by FDA show that it can be reopened to shell fishing in the 
near future. Is EPA also monitoring this site? 
Ms. Hurp. NOAA runs the monitoring program. 
Mr. Evans. You imply that the FDA will reopen it to shell fish- 
ing in the future. Are they going to reopen it or not? And how big 
of an area was closed at that dump site? 
Mr. Daviss. The dump site is closed. I do not think there is any 
pressure to reopen the site at the moment but I do agree that the 
last FDA survey of the site showed a significant decline. 
Mr. Evans. I would also like to suggest to Ms. Hurd that the 
budget for NOAA to monitor ocean dumping is substantially down 
and I am concerned about that. If NOAA is not going to do it and if 
the EPA is not going to do it, then who? 
Ms. Hurp. Sir, we are very concerned about it too and that is 
why we have taken the position on a financial system to insure 
that we have adequate research and monitoring on sites. 
Mr. Evans. Do you know how big that dump site was? 
Ms. Hurp. Which site, the Philadelphia or—— 
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