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Mr. Evans. The Philadelphia site. 
Mr. Daviess. The closure was 10 square miles. I am sorry, a 10- 
mile radius. 
Mr. Evans. A 10-mile radius. That is substantially different from 
10 square miles. We need to help our fishing industry as much as 
we possibly can. I do not think going back in there with harmful 
dumping of sewage sludge is the answer and I think Judge Sofaer’s 
decision sets a horrible precedent. I am extremely concerned over 
your inability to question it. 
Thank you for being here. 
Thank you, the gentleman from New Jersey. 
Mr. D’Amours. The gentleman from New Jersey. 
Mr. HuaGues. I have some additional time, I presume? 
Mr. D’Amours. You have 5 minutes. 
Mr. Huaues. First, I want to thank the panel for their testimo- 
ny. Let me just pick up on the radius of the Philadelphia dump site 
which is 30 miles off of Cape May City. Was it a 30-mile radius 
dump site? 
Ms. Hurp. Ten-mile radius. 
Mr. HuGues. That was a major shellfish producing area prior to 
the dump site, was it not? 
Mr. Davies. Yes. 
Mr. HuGcues. What makes you suggest that there is no pressure 
on EPA to open up that dump site? 
Ms. Hurp. Pardon, I did not hear the last part? 
Mr. HuGcuHes. What makes you believe that there is no pressure 
on you to open up that dump site? 
We have questioned EPA about that dump site every time you 
come here. 
Mr. Davires. My understanding is that the original Philadelphia 
dump site was a shell fishing area. The far dump site, the one that 
was recently closed, has never been a shell fishing area. 
ae HuaGues. We are talking about the original dump site, are we 
not’ 
Mr. Davies. I think we are talking about both. There is some 
confusion. 
Mr. HuGues. My point really is that I do not know why you are 
saying that there is no pressure on you to open up the dump site. 
Every time you come here I ask you about it. We are anxious to 
open it up as soon as you feel it is safe. 
Mr. ScHatzow. The original dump site, the original Philadelphia 
dump site has been opened for shell fishing by FDA. The subse- 
quent, the second Philadelphia dump site, which was where the 
dumping was terminated in 1980, is a further out site. It is not my 
understanding a commercial shell fishing area. 
Mr. HuGues. Let us talk in terms of miles. Which dumps are you 
talking about, the 30-mile site or the site that is beyond that, I be- 
lieve it is 40 miles? 
Ms. Hurp. Congressman, I would suggest that we send to you a 
prepared statement on the details of both sites to clarify it. 
Mr. HuGues. OK. And consider today’s hearing as pressure if you 
have not considered it as pressure in the past, so there is no confu- 
sion. 
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