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Mr. HuGues. It was a handful, was it not? 
Mr. ScHatzow. I am not exactly sure how many permits were 
pending at that point and how many we had already rejected on 
the basis that the designation of the 12 mile site expired, would 
expire, and, in fact, has expired as of December 31, 1981. 
Mr. Hucues. In that connection, you indicate that from 1973 to 
1980, 300 applicants or permitees were denied permits or phased 
out of the ocean. How many of those were phased out between the 
years 1977 and 1980? 
Mr. ScHatzow. I do not have that information. We can supply 
that for the record. 
[The following was received for the record:] 
Regarding your second question, a total of 322 permittees have been phased out 
since 1973. Since 1977, 60 permittees were phased out, while 272 were phased out in 
the years 1973-1977. 
Mr. HuGuHeEs. Would it be safe to assume that there were a sig- 
nificant number that were phased out during that time? After the 
1977 ban was put in place? 
Mr. Scuatzow. I believe that it is safe to assume that but I will 
have those numbers for the record. 
Mr. HuGHEs. How many permits are pending before the EPA for 
dumping in the New York Bight? 
Mr. ScHatzow. We have not received any applications for dump- 
ing in the New York Bight apex from any municipalities that are 
not presently dumping in the New York Bight apex. I believe that 
is correct. 
Mr. HuGues. For instance, I understand that Washington, D.C., 
just applied for a permit to dump. Where are they going to dump? 
Mr. ScHatzow. Washington, D.C., has submitted to our region 38, 
a preliminary application. It is not a full permit application for 
dumping of their sewage sludge at the 106 mile site, not at the 
New York Bight 12-mile site. 
Mr. Hucues. How about Philadelphia? Has Philadelphia come 
forward and reapplied yet? 
Mr. ScHatzow. We have not received any permit application 
from Philadelphia, nor from any other city other than—that is not 
presently dumping—other than Washington, D.C.’s application for 
the 106-mile site. 
Mr. HuGues. How about the city of Baltimore? 
Mr. ScHatzow. We have not received an application from the 
city of Baltimore. 
Mr. Hucues. How about the Boston Metropolitan District? 
Mr. ScHatzow. To the best of my knowledge we have not re- 
ceived any applications from the city of Boston or anywhere in the 
Boston Metropolitan area. 
Ne have received some informal inquiries from a number of 
people. 
Mr. Hucues. All right. So these are all just informal inquiries in 
most instances. 
How about Middlesex County Sewage Authority? What is the 
status of that? 
Mr. ScHatzow. Middlesex County Sewage Authority is dumping, 
and has historically dumped at the 12-mile site. 
