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of about 7 parts per million. Another is 200 parts per million. In 
answer to a question this morning, the commissioner—— 
Mr. D’Amours. Excuse me, Mr. Garabedian. I have to interrupt 
you at this point. 
Inasmuch as you are no longer following your statement, I do not 
know how much more you have to go. However, we have a very 
serious problem which just arose. A series of 5-minute votes is 
being ordered. There are eight 5-minute votes which the members 
now have to go and make. That will take about 1 hour. ~ 
This, of course, is addressed most particularly to Mr. Harper, 
who came all the way across the country to testify today. I suppose 
there are two alternatives. I can come back, and I hope the other 
committee members can, at about 4:45 to complete your testimony, 
to question you, and to listen to Mr. Harper and ask direct ques- 
tions of him, if you want to do that. 
The only other possible alternative I can imagine, would be to 
come in and testify on Friday, when there will be other testimony . 
taken on the same subject and where we could pick up exactly 
where we are now. You would be put on first, in front of the wit- 
nesses who are scheduled to go on at 10 o'clock Friday morning. 
I am perfectly happy to come back here at 4:45. It is your con- 
venience that I am concerned for at the moment, the convenience 
of both you, Mr. Garabedian, and Mr. Harper. 
Would you want to make a quick decision on that? 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Would you like me to confer with Mr. Harper? 
Is that the suggestion? 
Mr. D’Amours. All you have to do is tell me whether you want 
to come back at 4:45, or whether you want to come in and lead off 
Friday morning. 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Mr. Chairman, either sounds acceptable—to 
answer questions at 5 or to come back Friday. I can finish my 
statement in about 3 minutes. 
Mr. D’Amours. There is not even time for that. We have to be 
going within a very few minutes. 
Mr. Harper? 
Mr. Harper. I would like to finish it today, sir. 
Mr. D’Amours. The subcommittee stands in recess. We will be 
back here, hopefully, at 4:45, maybe a bit later, depending on how 
much time is wasted between votes. 
[Recess taken. ] 
Mr. D’Amours. Mr. Garabedian, thank you for your patience. 
Unfortunately Mr. Harper could not stay. That might have allowed 
us to change the scene and avoid this. I do thank you for staying. 
We will hear from him next Friday. 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
_Mr. D’Amours. I believe you had some of your testimony yet to 
deliver. 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. That is correct. 
Mr. D’Amours. OK. Why don’t you conclude, please? 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Thank you. 
To sum up our message about sewage sludge dumping, the best 
way I can do it is to give our conclusion. That is that when a mu- 
nicipality, or other agency handling sewage sludge wants to clean 
