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years stopped their ocean dumping will join New York and others 
in wanting once again to dump their sludge. 
Mr. D’Amours. I share that concern. Of course, I was as upset by 
the Sofaer decision as you undoubtedly were, for that very reason. 
However, is it not true that Philadelphia does dispose some un- 
treated sludge on land? 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Mr. Chairman, I do not know the answer to 
that question. However, it is certainly feasible to dispose on land 
untreated sludge in the proper sites where it can be contained 
properly. If Philadelphia did that, I would not be surprised. 
Mr. D’Amours. You agree with Captain Cousteau that we do 
have the technology at certain specific sites to properly contain 
sludge runoff and the like? 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Yes, sir. 
Mr. D’Amours. Thank you very much, Mr. Garabedian. I appre- 
ciate your patience in waiting for us to return. I regret that we 
could not accommodate you before the vote, which we might have 
done had we been aware of Mr. Harper’s situation. 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. It is quite acceptable. 
Mr. D’Amours. Your testimony has been very helpful. We will 
look forward to your continued participation as this legislation 
evolves. 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
May I make a final comment? 
Mr. D’Amours. Certainly you may. 
Mr. GARABEDIAN. Thank you. 
The question of the economics of all this has been brought up 
today by the city. The final point I would like to make has to do 
with our concern about the economics. The Sierra Club certainly is 
on the record as being concerned about our economy. 
The priorities for spending, especially in relation to sewage 
sludge, seem to be a real issue that was brought up here today. We 
simply have to question whether it makes sense to spend more 
money on studies, assessments, inventories, and so forth, when it 
relates to sewage sludge when we have the data in. We would 
much prefer to see the money directed toward actual solutions and 
not more studies. 
Mr. D’Amours. Thank you very much. 
This subcommittee is adjourned. 
[Whereupon, at 5:27 p.m., the hearing recessed, to reconvene 
Friday, March 26, 1982.] 
