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Mr. Haar. I would like to, if we may, just to have a brief com- 
ment to make on the waiver provisions if we could. 
Mr. BrEAux. Let me get all the member’s questions and give you 
time after that. I would like to recognize next, as Chairman D’Ar- 
mours said yesterday, the person who has authorized the cutoff 
data for ocean dumping of sewage sludge. 
The chairman also said that if Mr. Hughes is the author of the 
cutoff data I should be called the author and father of ocean dump- 
ing, which may not be a good title. 
Congressman Hughes? 
Mr. HuGuHeEs. You never heard me say that. You voted for that 
cutoff, as I recall, Mr. Chairman. 
Mr. Breaux. Only after my amendment about signficantly de- 
grading, but added to it, though. 
Mr. Hucues. I do remember that. I was interested in the chair- 
man’s question as to whether or not you prefer the present law or 
the proposed draft amendment, and your response, as I understood 
it, was that you prefer to stay with the present law. 
There is another aspect of that and that is whether you are talk- 
ing about BS or AS, which means that before SOFAR far or after 
SOFAR, because that becomes relevant. 
I suspect you probably like the direction that we have taken in 
the last few months after the SOFAR decision, because that has in- 
terjected some aspects to dumping that was never contemplated by 
the authors of the amendment, that is to balance ocean dumping 
against costs and land-based alternatives. 
Let me just ask you if you have any position at all as an associ- 
ation on provisions of the draft bill that would phase out the dump- 
ing in the New York Bight, which has been characterized as one of 
the ace distressed if not the most distressed waters in the entire 
world. 
