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they had brought in from California to see whether they could sur- 
vive the dredge material, died. Everybody was very concerned 
about it and then EPA admitted that somebody had forgotten to 
feed them for 2 weeks and then when they put them into the 
dredge material they all died. So there are a lot of ways of deter- 
mining whether a dredge material is potentially and significantly 
degrading. 
We have a lot of work to do in that area needless to say. I would 
like to thank you, Colonel Haar and Mr. LeBlanc and Mr. Brinson. 
We would have unanimous consent that the members who are not 
here would have permission to submit questions for you to respond 
to. I think it would be helpful. Especially, members who are here 
who would like to submit additional questions will be able to do 
that. 
We will excuse this panel. 
Mr. Breaux. At this time I will invite up a second panel this 
morning representing the Conference of Coastal Agencies. They 
will be represented by Mr. Lee White and Dr. Douglas Segar. 
Gentlemen, we welcome you and ask you to take your place at 
the witness table. We will be pleased to receive your testimony. 
STATEMENT OF LEE WHITE AND DR. DOUGLAS SEGAR, 
CONFERENCE OF COASTAL AGENCIES 
Mr. Wuitr. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the subcom- 
mittee. 
My name is Lee White. I am counsel to the Association of Metro- 
politan Sewerage Agencies and the coordinator of the Conference 
of Coastal Agencies, a relatively new group. 
I am accompanied by Dr. Douglas Segar, a scientist who is a con- 
sultant to the conference. You may remember that our presenta- 
tion was originally to be made by the chairman of our group, Mr. 
Fred Harper, the general manager of the county sanitation dis- 
tricts of Orange County, Calif. The time ran out last Tuesday so we 
appreciate the opportunity to be here today. 
We have a fairly lengthy statement that has been carefully 
worked out to represent the recent and considered views of our 
members. I would like to have it submitted for the record, hit a few 
high spots and then receive questions for myself and Dr. Segar. 
Mr. BrREAUX. Without objection, the entire statement will be 
made a part of the record. 
Mr. Wuirte. Thank you. 
The Conference of Coastal Agencies came into being about a year 
ago and we have in our membership 16 different coastal agen- 
cies, some very small and some very large ranging from New York 
City to Encina, Calif; we have 8 States represented in the 
group including 2 agencies from the State of New Jersey and later 
on this morning you will hear from Mr. Rocco Ricci, the chief engi- 
neer of Passaic Valley Utility Commissioners and former head of 
og department of environmental protection in the State of New 
ersey. 
We really do have, I think, a broad cross section and our purpose 
for having come into existence as a committee of the Association of 
Metropolitan Sewerage Agencies is to make the case to the public, 
