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Mr. Hughes. That is all I have unless there are other questions. 



If not, thank you very much. We appreciate your appearance, 

 gentlemen. 



That concludes the testimony for this morning's session. The sub- 

 committee will stand in recess until 2 p.m. 



[Whereupon, at 12:45 p.m., the subcommittee was recessed, to re- 

 convene at 2 p.m., the same day.] 



AFTERNOON SESSION 



Mr. D' Amours [presiding]. The subcommittee will come to order. 



We continue this afternoon with our hearing on ocean dumping 

 of sludge in the New York Bight and of course necessarily that in- 

 volves the question of the 106-mile site. 



We are happy and I am personally delighted to welcome today 

 for the second year in a row, the highly competent, congenial, affa- 

 ble, friendly mayor of New York City, our good friend and former 

 colleague, Ed Koch. For the purpose of introducing Mayor Koch I 

 would like to recognize Mr. Mario Biaggi. 



Mr. Biaggi. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



It seems to me after your preliminary remarks, any comments of 

 mine would be redundant, you have done it in encapsulated form. 

 The truth of the matter is the mayor has left his mark here and 

 went on to make it elsewhere, with more scars but he seems to 

 thrive on adversity. 



Hence he appears before us today with more vigor than before. 

 But to reflect back on his previous appearance with relation to 

 problems that have our mutual concern and have a significant 

 effect on the affairs of the city of New York, happily he was most 

 persuasive on the last occasion and the members of the committee 

 responded and saved the city of New York a considerable sum of 

 money. 



I have not yet read the mayor's testimony but you can be as- 

 sured that when he makes his presentation he makes it in a fash- 

 ion that would be conciliatory so far as the objective of this com- 

 mittee's concern and the objective of the city of New York with re- 

 lation to finances and also with respect to the environment. 



All I can say to my good friend Eddie Koch who came to the Con- 

 gress with me and with whom we have shared many a valiant 

 effort, ofttimes successful and other times futile — well at least not 

 successful — but we left our mark and I assure you. Your Honor, 

 that you and I will be on the same side of the fence again. 



I am hoping the committee and the chairman will be as under- 

 standing today as they have been in the past and I am delighted to 

 see my good friend. Commissioner McGough here with you, who in 

 my experience, Mr. Mayor, has done an excellent job. 



Dr. Gift I am sure comes with full credentials, otherwise you 

 wouldn't have him in your company. How they can embellish your 

 statement and your expertise remains to be seen. 



I am looking forward to it. Welcome. 



Mr. D' Amours. I thank the gentleman from New York. 



Are there any other statements to be made at this point? If not, 

 Ed, why don't you go ahead with your testimony 



