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11. What is the source of the City's estimate of $0.35 per 



cubic foot for disposing of sludge by private barge at the 

 106-mile site? 



The $0.35 per cubic foot price was obtained as a consensus price 

 in telephone conversations with the two private barging 

 companies operating in the metropolitan area, General Marine 

 Transport and A & S Transportation Company. It should be noted 

 that this quotation was obtained prior to the Sofaer decision, 

 when it appeared that ocean disposal of sludge might be halted. 

 The quote shown in A & S Transporation' s letter to Congressman 

 D'Amours, dated May 18, 1983, is an estimate, not a contract 

 price to one New Jersey dumper. The quote, by the way, is less 

 than the price in that dumper' s current contract with A & S 

 Transportation. ^_ __ 



Because of the Congressman's inquiry with A & S, we held a 

 meeting with them on July 7, 1983 to discuss what they would 

 charge New York City to haul one half of the sludge produced 

 here to the 106 mile site. Because the City has 12 water 

 pollution control plants around the City compared to the one 

 plant of the New Jersey dumper, the City's cost would be 

 greater. They gave a rough estimate of from $4.50 to $6.50 per 

 wet ton, or $0.14 to $0.21 per cubic foot. We believe that if a 

 decision were made to go to the 106 mile site and negotiations 

 were started to contract for private barging, these prices 

 would begin to firm-up closer to the $0.35 price originally used 

 in our cost estimates. 



