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Mr. D' Amours. Our next witnesses are the Honorable Michael 

 Castle, who is the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Delaware, 

 and Mr. Paul Arbesman, who is deputy commissioner of New Jer- 

 sey's Department of Environmental Protection. 



Gentlemen, I would appreciate it if you would approach the table 

 at this time. We will have you testify one after the other and ques- 

 tions will be asked of the two of you together as a panel. 



STATEMENTS OF HON. MICHAEL N. CASTLE, LIEUTENANT GOV- 

 ERNOR, STATE OF DELAWARE, ACCOMPANIED BY TOM 

 EICHLER, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL CON- 

 TROL; PAUL ARBESMAN, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, NEW JER- 

 SEY'S DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, AC- 

 COMPANIED BY BARRY SCHMIDT, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON 

 OCEAN WASTE MANAGEMENT 



Mr. D' Amours. Before we begin I would like to recognize out of 

 order the gentleman from Delaware, Mr. Carper, for the purpose of 

 introducing the Lieutenant Governor of the State of Delaware. 



Mr. Carper. 



Mr. Carper. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. 



I am delighted this afternoon to have before this subcommittee 

 our Lieutenant Governor, Michael N. Castle, who previously served 

 as a State senator and State representative in the State of Dela- 

 ware. He was minority leader and today serves as Lieutenant Gov- 

 ernor. A personal friend, someone with whom I have a great deal 

 of respect and admiration. He shares my concerns about the pro- 

 spective damage that could be done to our State by designation of 

 the 106-mile site. 



I just want to welcome you and Tom Eichler, director of the divi- 

 sion of environmental control. Welcome. 



Mr. D' Amours. Thank you, Mr. Carper. 



Gentlemen, if you would like to proceed. Lieutenant Governor 

 Castle, please. 



STATEMENT OF MICHAEL N. CASTLE 



Mr. Castle. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Congress- 

 man Carper. You have met Tom Eichler, to my left, director of the 

 environmental control. 



My experience is quite a bit less than Mayor Koch's. My con- 

 cerns are the same but my conclusions are different than his con- 

 clusions. For the past 11 years, Members of Congress have been 

 talking about ocean dumping. For the past 11 years, Delawareans 

 have been saying to the Congress, to agents of the Environmental 

 Protection Agency, Federal oceanographers, and to anyone who 

 might listen, we do not want sludge from distant municipalities, or 

 for that matter from any source whatsoever, disposed of or dis- 

 persed in the ocean off our coastline. 



Fifteen days ago, in Rehoboth Beach, Del., a place that is well 

 known to you folks in this area, the EPA held a public hearing on 

 the issue that rests before us today. At the hearing, the entire 

 Delaware congressional delegation, Senator Roth, Senator Biden, 

 and Representative Carper, expressed unequivocal opposition to 

 designation of the so-called 106-mile site, as did Delaware's Cover- 



