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Mr. FoRSYTHE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the witnesses, 

 too, for their testimony. 



Mr. Governor, from the maps we've looked at, the 12-mile site 

 seems even closer to Delaware than the 106-mile site. Does that 

 change your view at all? 



Mr. Castle. We have looked at the same map. Congressman, and 

 I appreciate that. One of the things we are relying on is the fact 

 that this 12-mile site is tried and true, if you will. It is probably not 

 a good expression for what it is. 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. That is right, it is certainly tried, though probably 

 not that true. 



Mr. Castle. Right. And we fear the change more than anything 

 else, as Mr. Eichler pointed out, we are concerned about the un- 

 known. We don't want to be an experiment for something we don't 

 know about now. I don't want to get — we really are opposed to any 

 ocean dumping whatever. I don't mean to suggest we endorse the 

 12-mile site. It is a matter of choice. 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. Of course we hear from your able Representative 

 that anything to stop designation of the 106-mile site is good. 



Mr. Castle. Right. 



Mr. FoRSYTHE. One of the witnesses this morning, Mr. Kamlet, 

 suggested designating another deepwater site which would be north 

 of the 106-mile site. As a matter of fact, it would be north of 

 Hudson Canyon, somewhat closer to New York and well separated 

 from the 106-mile site. 



Would that do anything to ease your pain? 



Mr. Castle. That is the so-called 60-mile site? 



Mr. Forsythe. No, no. 



Mr. Castle. No? That would ease our anguish somewhat, though. 

 Anjrthing that is north and more removed would be easier for us to 

 live with. 



Mr. Forsythe. It still would be off the shelf. 



Mr. Castle. That is correct. 



Mr. Forsythe. Which the 60-mile site is not. 



Mr. Castle. We prefer anything that is dumped not get too near 

 Delaware. We are concerned about the sites. The 106 sounds good, 

 but we don't know if we always believe it. 



Mr. Forsythe. We do appreciate your testimony. Obviously there 

 is a ways to go. As a matter of fact, the site designation process for 

 the 106-mile site has not been completed and EPA is going into 

 great detail in its new reviews investigating that. This morning I 

 got assurances from EPA that there would be hearings on the 60- 

 mile and 12-mile sites in New Jersey because of site proximity. 



Thank you. 



For Mr. Arbesman, welcome from New Jersey. 



Mr. Arbesman. Thank you. 



Mr. Forsythe. I wish the chairman would have let you answer 

 those questions instead of saying we will take them for the record, 

 but we will accept this. 



Mr. D' Amours. Would the gentleman yield? I would be happy to 

 have those questions answered if there is that desire. 



Mr. Forsythe. I don't want to delay the time more. 



