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Mr. Kerrn. Will this study which the administration is undertak- 
ing treat marine sanctuaries ? 
Dr. Guascow. This has not been brought up as of this date, Mr. 
Keith. Iam sure we could include it as part of this study. 
Mr. Kerru. I do not want to delay the action on the main thrust 
here, which has great significance to many parts of my constituency. 
But I wish that you would make certain that some input is made in 
that respect. 
I have no further questions at the moment, Mr, Chairman. 
Mr. Drneetxt. Thank you, Mr. Keith. 
Mr. Goodling ? 
Mr. Goopitine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
Just this one observation. I want the record to show that I do not 
completely agree with the statement made by Dr. Glasgow at the top 
of page 2, which says this: 
We have begun to recognize the awesome and terrible consequences of biologi- 
eal amplification of DDT and other biologically active hydrocarbons. 
I am afraid, Doctor, that we have become far more emotional over 
DDT than we have scientifically. 
Just yesterday I was reading an article written by very responsible 
people who refute a lot of the things that have been said about DDT 
recently. It seems all of a sudden, practically overnight, we have de- 
veloped a lot of pseudoscientists. 
Right now, this very moment, gypsy moths are eating us up in 
Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. We have no known sub- 
stitute for the gypsy moth. 
Mr. Drncexu. Will the gentleman yield ¢ 
You mean no known substitute for DDT in controlling the gypsy 
moth ? | 
Tam sure the gentleman did not mean substitute for gypsy moth. 
Mr. Goopvtine. I stand corrected. I wish we could substitute the 
gypsy moth. But we have no known substitute to combat the gypsy 
moth other than DDT. While it is not specifically banned in Pennsy]- 
vania, these so-called scientists thut have become so emotional, have 
caused so much trouble, my people in Pennsylvania are simply afraid 
to use it. Originally we were using 3 gallons to the acre to control the 
gypsy moth. We know now we can do it with 1 gallon per acre. No- 
body has discovered any real negative results that have occurred by 
using it. But as I say, my people and I just spoke to my entomologist a 
week ago in Pennsylvania—he said they were simply airaid to use it. 
This article I read hurriedly yesterday refutes a lot of the things that 
are being said about DDT. ; 
All I would like to do is, go slow until we have more information 
about DDT. 
T have said this over and over again and I am sure the chairman 
is getting tired of hearing me say this, but if DDT was half as bad as 
you people insinuate, I would not be sitting here today questioning 
you and your statements that you have made because I personally 
have used tons of it and the doctors tell me I am still in pretty good 
shape physically. 
