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quite far away from the ocean. So I do not think it has any very direct 
effect on water quality in the ocean, but it certainly has a very strong 
effect on water quality in rivers. 
It puts a lot of material into rivers which use up the oxygen. After 
the oxygen is used up, these rivers turn septic and begin to smell. It 
is a problem that has to be taken very seriously because of its 
consequences. ; 
Mr. Gooptine. The problem then is being studied ? 
Dr. Stncer. More than that, we are acting in a positive direction. 
The difficulty, of course, again, is cost. You cannot afford to build 
exactly the kinds of waste treatment plants we build for cities. We 
have to find cheaper ways of dealing with this problem. We take 
advantage of the fact that feed lots are often located in areas where 
land is cheap, at least cheaper than it is in the cities, so you can use 
treatment ponds. By building treatment ponds adequately designed 
and learning how to design them properly, these wastes can be 
handled. 
Mr. Gooprine. That is all. 
Mr. Drncett. Mr. Everett ? | 
Mr. Everett. Dr. Glasgow, when you are submitting the other 
information for the record, we would also like for you to submit the 
cost of the legislation to the Federal Government in case Congressman 
Murphy’s bill or Congressman Ottinger’s bill or Congressman Har- 
rington’s bill would be ordered reported by the committee. 
Dr. Guascow. This would be extremely difficult, but we will do our 
best. 
Mr. Everetr. You mentioned that you are on the panel, under 
Chairman Train, which is now conducting a study on ocean dump- 
ing scheduled to be presented by September 1. Do you feel that this 
report is going to be submitted on time ? 
Dr. Guascow. It is questionable at this time whether we can com- 
plete the work or not by that date. 
Mr. Evererr. Do you have an indication as to when it will be 
presented to the President ? 
Dr. Guascow. No, but I am sure it will be as promptly after that 
date as possible, if not by that date. 
ee Everett. Will this report include any legislative reeommenda- 
tions ¢ 
Dr. Guiascow. I would think so. 
Mr. Drneett. If the gentleman would yield, I would observe with 
some sadness, Mr. Secretary, that there has never been a report that 
this committee has directed the Department of Interior or the execu- 
tive department to submit to us that has been submitted in timely 
fashion. This committee, as you recall, submitted to the executive 
branch legislation requiring the Executive to come forward with 
recommendations for legislation for the preservation of the estuarian 
areas. 
Mr. Secretary, I am sure you read that, as has the occupant of 
the chair. I am equally satisfied that you observed, as did I, and I 
must confess with great distress, that although the statute that re- 
quired the submission of that report stated clearly that there be a panel 
of legislative recommendations appended, and although that report 
